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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Online Points: 10732 |
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There are agents of the Church, who are often more fire and brimstone than the church themselves, and often have the least compassion and concern. You could take the Church out of the debate, and there would still be a lay community well capable of taking up the torch. There would also be the conservative movement who would default oppose repeal on an ideological basis. I also think that there will be the silent no voter, whose only act in this whole saga will be to vote no. Politicians will also vote based on their constituency, and that has given rise to TDs voting against even holding a referendum, let alone actually voting to repeal the amendment.
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MC Hammered
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That Ronan Mullen fella freaks me out. He's about as progressive as the more fundamentalist members of the Taliban.
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El Puto Amo
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corkery
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That's the referendum debate summed up. |
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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UCDFAN
Liam Brady Joined: 10 May 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1700 |
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Yes plus Repeal the 27th.
(Option not available in the Poll above).
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corkery
Ray Houghton Joined: 28 Jul 2010 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 4932 |
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That will never happen. |
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34908 |
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One of the reasons I'm voting yes. |
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It was far across the sea,
When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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Lenny82
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Will this be available on the medical card?
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UCDFAN
Liam Brady Joined: 10 May 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 1700 |
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That's what the Absolutists want you to think.
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corkery
Ray Houghton Joined: 28 Jul 2010 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 4932 |
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Good. |
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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OohAah...
Ray Houghton Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3514 |
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I dont think I will vote to repeal it. I would vote to reform it if that becomes an option.
Where there is a threat to someone's life or health abortion should be available. It's very hard to.outline my reasons briefly without going into significant depth and I realise it is a very divisive and sensitive issue. However I will try. The first reason is, human equality. We all believe in it.so it's about belief, do we believe that an unborn baby is a life, or human. My belief is, it is, therefore should have the same rights as another human. Secondly,I believe a man should be part of the decision. To not include him in the decision leaves off responsibility for their actions and or look after that baby. Social attitudes need to change as well, in terms of stigma and community support of single parents. We of course have improved in the last few decades but situations where a decision is made for instance based on bad timing in someone's life or for fear of what they will be thought of, I would suggest as been wrong. There should be a responsibility on both the man and woman for their actions and what they engage in. I'll reiterate though where there is a threat to life or health implications, it should be available. Hence I would vote to reform it. |
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bhob
Roy Keane YBIGs Donald Trump Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 10470 |
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So you're going to vote no because you think people will use abortion as some sort of contraceptive?
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McG
Moderator Group SISAO? What the hell is SISAO? Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Location: Christmas Island Status: Offline Points: 27012 |
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15 votes for no on a football forum.
This will run close.
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YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017
AS YOU WERE McGx |
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the_walls
Jack Charlton 6 in a row, alive alive oh.. Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Walkinstown Status: Offline Points: 5182 |
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I've read what Ooohah said a few times now and I'm not sure how you feel that's what he's saying? Maybe I'm missing something
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Het-field
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Walls, I think he is referring to the line about "responsibility", perhaps two lines from the bottom of the post. But I too am
Struggling to see this interpretation. Especially as the poster has talked about "reform". Granted, I rarely accept the reform argument in any referendum, as it's never on the table. Plus, what kind of reform would be sensible and make a noticeable difference apart from repeal. |
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randyrandolph
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well said. for me it's the question of is an unborn baby is a life - even before 12 weeks. in my view it absolutely is and by terminating it you are taking a life away that's basic instinct is to survive. For me this is why i would probably vote no - if i could vote. strongly agree that reform is needed. |
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bhob
Roy Keane YBIGs Donald Trump Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 10470 |
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"There should be a responsibility on both the man and woman for their actions and what they engage in." This is where I got it from. I wasn't having a go just asking if that's what he felt as I'm sure a lot of people will feel the same way.
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OohAah...
Ray Houghton Joined: 09 Apr 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 3514 |
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I probably wont spend the day arguing my viewpoint as I Know Ill steer off some points slightly and end up arguing on tangents from my original viewpoint.
I am highly aware aswell its a sensitive topic and dont want to be offending people. |
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MC Hammered
Jack Charlton Joined: 05 Oct 2011 Status: Online Points: 6876 |
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Don't leg it from the thread OohAah. I personally don't agree with your viewpoint but I'm interested in hearing more from people like yourself who are putting forward your argument in a constructive manner. It's important to get both sides to air their views.
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El Puto Amo
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