VAR sytem

Two incredibly tight VAR offside decisions in city game

Edited by Roberto Baggio - 10 Aug 2019 at 2:04pm

For me it just does not work in football. Taking the excitment out of goals. Huge amount of them will be checked and your waiting round to see if you can celebrate. That sterling one that was given offside today, i could hardly make that out even on VAR. Tecnically it may get most decisions right but at what cost. Drain the life and excitment out of games. For me i wish it went back to the old way. Others may like it. Bet you fans will be sick of it in a year.

coyne wrote: Ofcourse it had to be Mike Dean to make the headlines to be the first to use it! I hate that man so much. If I ever became malding it's because of him.

doherty wrote: For me it just does not work in football. Taking the excitment out of goals. Huge amount of them will be checked and your waiting round to see if you can celebrate. That sterling one that was given offside today, i could hardly make that out even on VAR. Tecnically it may get most decisions right but at what cost. Drain the life and excitment out of games. For me i wish it went back to the old way. Others may like it. Bet you fans will be sick of it in a year.

Edited by planning - 10 Aug 2019 at 10:59pm

Planning, how many refereeing errors did you jot down in your notebook today?

Spot on. Watching Sterlings goal that VAR gave after reviewing the offside, with the level of technology being used the exact time the last pass is played is almost impossible to decide. On that goal, Sterling looked marginally offside on numerous replays, then BT showed some squiggly lines to show Sterling was just onside.

In any other games I’ve seen this weekend the VAR decision making time has been a lot shorter than I was expecting, and certainly a lot shorter than it was in the tournaments we had in the summer

Edited by Roberto Baggio - 11 Aug 2019 at 11:27pm

Did it actually take 2 minutes I wonder or did Nuno Esposito Santo just guess that in his moan about them having a goal chalked off, despite it being a perfectly correct call?

Edited by Roberto Baggio - 11 Aug 2019 at 11:35pm

SuperDave84 wrote: Premier League players, at full pace, run about 30kph. In one second, that is a distance of 8.33m. With a frame rate of 50fps (which is what tv cameras generally use), the difference between one frame and the next is 16cm. That's over 6 inches, in old money. That's even discounting the defender running in one direction and the forward in the opposite direction. The frame selection in deciding when the pass is played is absolutely key in showing whether a player is offside or not; VAR is very, very far from infallible when it decides on offside. I appreciate players are rarely at top speed the instant a pass is played but the point is, the margins are very, very fine, the cameras are far from perfect and the frame selection is undoubtedly a human element even in the VAR system. This isn't a reason to say that VAR shouldn't be used, but there is definitely an argument that there should be something like "referee's call" on close offside decisions, if it is not clear exactly which frame should be used when deciding if a player is offside or not... as is often the case.