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Hans Moleman
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The champions league final penalty was a complete nonsense. It was and never will be a penalty. I have now seen about a thousand handballs in leagues across Europe this season, 99 percent of which correctly were not given as penalties. Amazing that considering Plannings assertion that every handball would result in a penalty this season.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Roberto Baggio
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Dinamo player elbows Rodri in the face
How can VAR not step in there?
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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It's so bad that you just have to laugh at this stage clear red card and a nasty bit of play from the Zagreb player. Maybe the VAR lad was out paying the pizza delivery guy at the time?
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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t_rAndy
Robbie Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 26244 |
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Jaysus that VAR offside goal in the liverpool game was so tight, maybe he was a millimetre offside, if even. For margins so tight, I think they should stick with the on field decision. Ruining what would have previously been perfectly good goals where the judgement would have been in the analysis that they were level
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Didn't UEFA basically come out during the week and say this would be the case from next season? It's basically them admitting that the technology isn't of a high enough standard for such tight calls. VAR in it's current guise is a complete and utter nonsense.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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t_rAndy
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I didnt see that, just read the article on BBC there. That would certainly be a big improvement, youd be spitting blood if those decisions liverpool have been on the wrong end of would have cost us points on our march to the title
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Roberto Baggio
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Bournemouth would have been robbed of a famous win today had it not been for VAR
It’s finally done something useful
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Sham157
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Clearly VAR works in some instances and fails in others, a lot of others.
Its picked up on some absolutely borderline off sides, but as other have alluded to, its also picked up on apparent offsides where the technology is not advanced enough, id fsps. UEFA coming out this week only verifies this. The idea that cheating is a thing of the past, surrounding the referee is a thing of the past, that there will be no more goals allowed to stand that shouldn't be and, to a lesser extent vice versa is, collectively laughable to a similar degree to the notion that every-time a ball hits the hand in the box is a penalty. Personally, i think VAR can and will be a good thing eventually. In its current format, the fact an armpit can somehow be off side is a bit much..anyone for clear and obvious error?
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t_rAndy
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Yeah I think it’s taken a lot of fun out of it, waiting to see if it’s being reviewed or not and then VAR checking if everything was absolutely perfect. Penalties, potential handballs in box (attacking or defending), clear offsides, dangerous fouls and foul play off the ball. These are the things that happen so fast that ref might not see it clearly.
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Trap junior
Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39842 |
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I think maybe just have 2 challenges a game for each team. A team can challenge if they believe there is an offside or handball etc for a goal but if they lose one of their challenges if they are wrong. I think leave the marginal calls to the conceding team to challenge if its borderline. Only review goals when challenged. Not nitpicking every single goal to see if someone is 2mm offside. There is definitely a way around the issues. Just needs time to iron this stuff out. Scoring goals and celebrating then having it ruled off 2 mins later is a bit annoying.
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t_rAndy
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The 2 challenge thing might be a good idea too but still should on top of ground rules that goals do not have to be absolutely perfect goals like the slightest of pushes or marginal offsides. there are only 1-2 goals per game on average so you would still get teams
Challenging every goal they concede (while they have challenges available) with the hope there was something in the mix that overturns the decision
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Roberto Baggio
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The challenge system is a load of sh*te IMO
There’d be managers appealing for all sorts in the 86th minute of games just because they haven’t used up a challenge yet, wasting time for no reason. That’s just one of the flaws I foresee
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Claret Murph
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t_rAndy
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Did you see Mane's one yesterday? I only 'accept' that he was ahead of the other player because that's what I was told. I couldn't really see it on the screen. The lines they use are very confusing. Before VAR I think everyone would have said he was level and therefore goal stands.
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Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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Happens in rugby and cricket all the time. You think you have a try or wicket, then you discover you haven't. Players and fans just grow up and get on with it, not cry and chant about how annoying it is, or calling for it to be scrapped when it doesn't go their way. Challenges do not work. They would be manipulated and used as tactics, nor do they guarantee the right decision made. All it takes is one error to destroy a season (or campaign at international level) work. The stakes at the highest level are massive, so we must do everything we can to ensure that games are decided on merit, not mistakes. |
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VAR: Cutting the crap out of football.
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Planning, what are your thoughts on UEFA essentially admitting that they do not have the technology to adjudge the tightest of offsides. Hence, next season I think they will go with clear and obvious mistakes for offsides being the only ones VAR overrule from the on field officials.
The fact that they have never had the technology, yet you are seeing offsides being given by millimeters is absolutely laughable.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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As in other sports, I trust the technology used is advanced enough to provide the evidence for the correct decision to be implemented as per the laws of the sport at the time. So it's left to those who don't want it, to question it. They'll always find something to question, but the evidence is there for us all to see, as a camera cannot be conned.
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VAR: Cutting the crap out of football.
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Hans Moleman
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The camera cannot be conned sweet suffering jaysus
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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