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Devrozex
Jack Charlton Joined: 23 Oct 2010 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 7676 |
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Kevin Doyle was making this point about it's introduction in the MLS. Apparently they made it a cautionable offence to make the VAR gesture towards the ref and enforced the rule rigorously during the first few weeks of its implementation. He claims that sorted the issue and within a few games no-one was hounding the ref looking for VAR reviews. As far as I can see that's one of the things that went wrong last night. The ref was hounded on every call.
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Croftman
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Where do you draw the line? You cant be stopping it constantly to review everything that happens in a game or it'll turn into American Football. There has to be some human element remaining, I'm not sure where that line is though
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Some people just deserve a slap
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ProudAndLoud
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Just go and design a Robotic Referee who wont make mistakes. This will work perfectly NOT !
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bhob
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The game is monitored by other referee's that advise the ref when to stop it. The ref isn't stopping the game every time he feels like it.
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Croftman
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I know how it works, what I'm saying is they shouldn't be stopping it for everything which is what they seem to be doing
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Some people just deserve a slap
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bhob
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But it's not being stopped for everything, it's being stopped for game changing or potential game changing incidents. Saying it's being used to stop everything is a very weak excuse to not like it.
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Drumcondra 69er
Jack Charlton Joined: 07 Oct 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 7124 |
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Genuinely think that they need to mic up the refs and the var officials so that people can hear what they're saying. Not a rugby fan but they have that right. When VAR works it's good but the inconsistency is maddening.
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Stoked Up
Jack Charlton Joined: 22 Oct 2009 Location: España Status: Offline Points: 6674 |
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Yep. This cannot go on. A weak ref, is still a weak ref no matter what VAR is saying in his ear. A good ref wont take any sh*t and will dismiss payers with as many yellow cards as necessary to get the message across that he cannot be hounded. I can see a FIFA review making this a top priority.
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planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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Every incident is reviewed. One VAR screen has 16 different camera angles on it, to review an incident at any one time. The game is stopped just a handful of times at most, so they try to stay out of it as much as possible.
The Iran penalty call had a second round place on the line, or alternatively elimination from the tournament for another 4 years. Jobs and livelihoods for the countries concerned may also be subject to the refs decision. So the decision must be correct. If it takes a couple of minutes longer to make it that's fine. We must have justice on a football pitch.
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VAR: Cutting the crap out of football.
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FREEWHEELER
Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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69er, spot on. Was watching the Queensland v NSW game on Sunday morning, a three game annual series they play there, unmissable and absolutely massive in Australia.
VAR was used several times in huge decisions, the ref was mic'd up to the booth and the fans/TV audience could hear every word. There is no room then for accuasations of non-transparent decisions or refs being told what decision to make (ie to make sure Ronaldo wasn't given a red, or to award Iran the peno cos they were denied one earlier). I believe VAR has ensured most of the correct decisions have been made, but it should be 100%. The decision not to do it for when Mitrovic was shoved scrum-like by Schar and Lichsteiner was the worst call I've seen in years, horrendous. Given it's the first time it's been used at a major tournament, it needs a good bit of tweaking but the fundamental idea of it is sound, ie correct decisions are being made. Fook this sh*te "ah but the emotion is being taken out of it", I'd far sooner have seen the correct decision being made in Paris in 2009 than having nine years of now calling that coont a coont.
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AnCearrbhach
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Assuming the technology was subsidised or whatever would you be happy to see VAR in Tallaght, or even for FIFA qualifying matches involving Ireland? Just curious.
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Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile.
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Croftman
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I didn't say I didn't like it, I said I felt it was been used too often. It's not an excuse, its how I feel. Not arguing a point, just stating how I feel about it
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Some people just deserve a slap
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Saint Tom
Jack Charlton Joined: 03 Jan 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9986 |
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Imo the decision should be taken away from the ref and full responsibility given to the VAR team. Anyone who asks for a review should be booked and anyone hounding the ref should be booked too. Play doesn't stop until the VAR team advise the ref that a decision should be changed.
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FREEWHEELER
Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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Yes, 100%. Agree Saint Tom also. Good points.
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Stoked Up
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What language would they use? AFAIK, Rugby uses English most of time during international club/country games. Are the crew in Moscow all speaking in the one language? Is there an interpreter? The refs are from all differing nations with various languages as their first one.
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planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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English is the official language of FIFA, and it's mandatory for referees. At international tournaments, it's the best way for them to communicate effectively.
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21 Peno’s so far in this WC.
Do you think the refs have been encouraged to give more? Only 13 in the last WC. 2002 had the previous record - 18
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Cabra Hoop
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I fear the introduction of VAR will result in an increase in the number of head injuries in the game. If VAR eliminates the grabbing and shoving at corners by awarding penalties, i can see a big increase in collisions, in fact I can see some reckless defenders deliberately heading opponents to discourage them from trying to score. A loaf in the back of the head or cheekbone might make a forward think twice about going for the ball.
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