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Double Maxim
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@Drumcondra 69er good look with this bud.
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My opinions in a nutshell....
People having fun in Italia '90 - it was the fime of our lives, we were mighty men. People having fun in Frank '06 - feckin idiots We've all got old, I'm sure most people think lads in their 20's nowadays with their fancy haircuts are apes too. Nothing to do with Irish football fans.
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Ray Houghton I love Ireland jerseys Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Location: Jersey Status: Offline Points: 4416 |
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Interesting topic all right.My own opinion as someone pushing 40 and going to away games/tournaments the last 20 odd years is that everything is recorded now and on the internet in moments.
Most "away" stories had a certain amount of "you had to be there" about them.The spoken word filtered out the actual behaviour/level of drunkenness etc.Now every waking moment is filmed and like a night out with your mates when your on the dry its not as funny as they think it is or will remember it to be in the morning. I'm sure if lots of footage like the present day existed of Irish fans on the lash in 1988 & 1990 existed certain men in their late 40s/early 50s would be morto just like a lot of lads will be in 20/30 years will be when their kids watch their behaviour in 2042. Went on a leaving cert holiday in 1996 with 18 lads to Santa ponsa.im so f**king glad no smart phones existed then.A few years ago young lads let a tv programme follow them on their leaving cert holidays and it didn't alter their behaviour one bit.I personally would have been mortified if my family saw me act like that and worse still it was out for public consumption. Young lads today couldn't care less and tbh it looks like they act worse when they know they are being films.This applies at international matches also and don't think its a reflection on Irish football fans more society in general |
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Paulie
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I despise the current look at me culture and unfortunately it is alive and well on Ireland trips. Match aside, the people I travel with are there for one reason and that is to have as much craic as possible. The difference though is that it’s spontaneous and it’s not for any other purpose than to amuse ourselves. A lot of the younger people on the trips now are just trying to out-craic each other so that they can post up a clip on Facebook or whatever. Social media is turning/has turned a sizeable proportion of a generation of people into self-obsessed, fame infatuated, vacuous morons, and this is reflected by their behaviour on Ireland trips. As for the aggro that has been mentioned a few times around recent trips, thankfully I haven’t seen any of this but that’s possibly because I tend to try to avoid the kind of places where these idiots would hang out.
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BohsinMunich
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Firstly, good luck with the Masters. Interesting slant on the subject matter of Irish and Alcohol (older generations have always complained about the behaviour of the relevant younger generation), to revolve it around Irish Away fans. As have been mentioned already Social media, change in drinking habits, type of drugs, finances are all relevant. The only other sport where large numbers travel is rugby so maybe a parallel comparison over the same period might open up some other threads . I have no experience of Rugby but some lads on here may well travel to both and could offer some input |
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gufct
Jack Charlton Trapattoni could manage me any day! Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 6518 |
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Biggest problem I can see is the return of Charly in large quantities in Copenhagen especially with lads looking to fight anyone be they irish or danish.
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One City,One County,One Club GUFC will be back.
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muscles
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 30 Jul 2010 Location: Co Mayo Status: Offline Points: 489 |
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There definitely was down outside the Moulin Rouge.
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So, in summary... |
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Liam Brady Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Status: Offline Points: 1280 |
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2009 Had just as much of this carry on. Plenty of footballs being kicked around wildly under the Eiffel Tower. Plenty of fans pissing all over the tower in open view to the disgust of the locals / tourists. Plenty of random locals and tourists being verbally abused and showered in beer l
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Ahhhhhh the good old do's and dont's on away trips. |
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I only remember a few scummers blocking traffic |
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They have a point
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That was Ireland assistant Roy Keane |
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Jack Charlton Man City records obsession Joined: 20 Mar 2012 Location: Dundalk Status: Offline Points: 9647 |
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I'm not sure when the changed happened but I see it like this:
Irish fans have always drank way too much and some got messy, very messy but the football always came first. In Japan 2002 and before the fans were there for the football. The reason for going was to support the national team and have a good time whilst there. In Poland 2012 a significant portion, maybe 15-20% were there for the p1ss. It was like a stag do with a football match thrown in. In France 2016 that % was maybe 20-25%. and I only see it getting worse |
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And the apple didn't fall far from that particular tree. |
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Cabra Hoop
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Agree with this. The level of drinking has gone off the richter in the last decade or so. Poland 2012 was a game changer in that it was the virgin ground for the younger generation who brought home lots of war stories with them. Of course, any of those who missed out on Poland were not going to miss out on France 2016 and this upped the ante on the level of "craic". Some of the "Tournament"/Big Game awy fans are using the football to replace their beano's in Santa Ponsa or Malia and take serious liberties with their oafish behavior. As for the self-policing, it takes a brave man to stand up to a group of coked upped maggots masquarading as football fans.
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