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King_Kenny
Liam Brady Joined: 31 Aug 2019 Location: Claudy Status: Online Points: 2490 |
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He already is in his head.
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CK has signed a new long term term contract with Liverpool.
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Double Maxim without doubt the greatest drink in the world
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Borussia
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And it seems like he won't be loaned out next season.
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Het-field
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I cant help but repeat that watching Danny Ward in goal for Wales at the Euros has confirmed to me that bench-warming at a good club is no impediment to development or good goalkeeping. As has been said, if he gets a run in various cup competitions, league matches where Alisson might be absent, and even some Champions League, he will continue to develop. He could potentially end up playing as often as Randolph.
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kevin100
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No it’s not for goalkeepers if they are training at the level he’s doing so. Goalkeepers have all the time in the world to develop. Most goalkeepers only start hitting their peak in the late 20s. This is it especially the fact Alisson is slightly injury/accident prone if he’s No.2 he may find himself playing plenty League games or CL games on top of Cup games. Ward Olsen with Sweden too it almost as if this “he has to be playing on loan at a League 1 club to be No.1” is absolute rubbish. That’s not a dig at Bazunu btw who id actually prefer to see go on loan to a League 1 club next season again. He’s only 19 and won’t be 2nd choice at City hence he’s best served doing that. Kelleher is 2nd choice it’s a different situation.
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AbuAbu
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Maybe but I think he should insist on getting League Cup games if he doesn't go on loan. He also needs to be sure he is No 2 and not No 3 in the pecking order.
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Borussia
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Yes, I'm sure any manager will react well to any player insisting on playing! He'll secure his place as number 2 by playing well when he gets a chance.
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Het-field
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I suspect there will be no insisting, but the likelihood is there is representations from management that he will see game time, or at least he is on track for it, and that he is part of longer term plans. The truth is, it will only be as Alisson is either headhunted by another club, or injury/form impacts him, that Kelleher breaks in on a more consistent basis. Having said that, I think staying at Liverpool and playing matches here and there sets him up for a better move, should he leave, than a year at a Championship club.
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Artie Ziff
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When I saw all these messages in here I thought someone had gotten a measuring tape to confirm his height. Very disappointing.
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Wheelo
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would’ve much preferred him to go out on loan and get consistent first team experience - not in and out of team.
But shows serious faith from Liverpool with a 5 year contract
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"Not surprised you are anti foreigner in your so called Kip of a town when you don’t want a manager because he is Swedish and you want big Sam in charge" - a fine post from a fine ybig poster
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kevin100
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A year or two as 2nd choice at Liverpool 10-15 games a season hopefully and he will undoubtedly be loaned out to a club to play regular football. That season or two impressing as an established 2nd choice on his CV would allow him to go on loan/leave to a decent club be it on England or on the continent.
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JoxerDaly
Liam Brady Joined: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1273 |
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Yeah couple of years learning off Allison and to build himself up and he could be world class, still think hes a bit skinny to be top level but something that can be worked on.
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Eoink21
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In normal circumstances, I'd be complaining that the lad needs to get out and get games and make mistakes to really improve. But, he seems to have come on a lot even in the last couple of years on the Liverpool bench. He was much better in 20/21 than he was in 19/20 for Liverpool, much better and the stats would bear that out. My point is that he seems to be doing quite alright training with Alisson and at Liverpool.
One concern is the impact on the Ireland squad. I don't have much concern for his long term development but it would be more assuring if for us and in the short term he were playing every week at a top tier side in Europe or a good Championship side because that would surely be the calibre looking to loan him if he were available. Lower half Bundesliga or a decent Belgian or Dutch side would snap their hands off, surely.
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kevin100
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The dream would have been Liverpool dropped to the Europa League and not make that comeback. He would have gotten those games then your looking at 8-10 games this side of Xmas alone for him. However it doesn’t matter as much for a keeper and only in Ireland could we say a young keeper who’s come up to being 2nd choice at one of the top clubs in Europe behind one of the top 3/4 goalkeepers in the World is an issue as regards playing for us. Sweden and Wales have no issue with Olsen and Ward being 2nd choice at Everton and Leicester two less high profile clubs. If we had a keeper first choice at a PL club fair enough but we don’t. Flip side is he stays for another year or two impresses in his appearances as 2nd choice and it would allow him to get a decent loan move to a higher standard then bottom half Bundesliga even.
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Left foot
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We have a bit of a goalkeeper arms race at the moment (pun intended)
4 keepers pushing for the no1 jersey. As of today I would say the order looks like the below but can change drastically after just a few games at clubs. 1. Randolph - Premier League number 2. If he plays games for West Ham he'll stay number 1. If not, another player could leapfrog him. 2. Bazunu - if he doesn't get a loan and play first team football he'll lose his place as number 2. If he does play and randolph doesn't, he'll be the number 1. 3. Kelleher - looks to be staying at Liverpool as number 2. , if he gets any sort of run of games for Liverpool he'll jump 2 places to the number 1 choice. 4. Travers - if he gets a loan move or becomes number 1 at Bournemouth and the others don't play regularly then he'll jump to number 1. Outside chance at the moment. All in all its Randolphs shirt to lose and there are a few that will be looking to take his place. |
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Banjaxed
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I think Bazuna is Kenny's number one now. Assuming he gets a loan move in next few weeks and is number one at club level, then he'll start against Portugal. Barring a Lazarus like recovery our World Cup is over. With Kenny putting his rational head on he surely must be thinking let's give the younger goalkeepers the badly needed experience in a relatively risk free situation. Coupled with the possibility that this world.Cup campaign would be Randolph's last for Ireland. Yes he's not over the hill age wise as far as a goalkeeper goes, but given the quality we have coming up behind him it makes logical sense to blood them as much as possible. A 37 year old Randolph won't be going to Euro 2024 should we qualify. His move to West ham shows he is a pragmatic head on his shoulders. I don't think it will be any different at international level. |
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Devrozex
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Completely agree. We need to start getting some decent exposure for our promising younger players and unfortunately for him that means Rando taking a back seat role from now on. Bazunu has done nothing to suggest he should be dropped and there's a decent chance he'll be the only one of our three best keepers playing regular club football again next season. I'll be fairly disappointed if SK reverts back to Randolph for the Portugal game.
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kevin100
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My own thinking is Bazunu and Kelleher need to be giving the keys to the office indeed. For sure have Randolph in the squad when fit but context our World Cup is over we have 3 very good young talents the two mentioned in particular are far better suited to the style the manager wants to play compared to Randolph. Randolph I recall saying it a good few months back Bazunu only starting out, before Kelleher had made his CL debut that with the 3 young lads in behind him he wouldn’t be worried about the future of Irish goalkeeping it’s only a question of when they take the mantle off him. Even he knew from training with them the quality he was with in hindsight. Travers I still think has at least as high if not a higher ceiling then Randolph had but got stage fright against Serbia. If Bournemouth are keeping Begovic they really should loan him out for a full season to get games in League 1.
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