Ireland v Denmark match thread

GB 1HughJarse wrote: Maccatacca wrote: GB 1HughJarse wrote: Ed on the footballrankingsinfo website has issued a new prediction after 1st leg. Denmark to qualify Before 1st leg: 51% Now after 1st leg: 45% Ireland to qualify Before 1st leg: 42% Now after 1st leg: 47% PSO: 8% YBIG What does PSO mean? Don’t buy into this to be honest, the Danes were huge mathematical favourites in the first leg, and look how that turned out. PSO: Penalty shoot out

Let’s hope it doesn’t get to that then! Although imagine the exstacy of a win in one though.

How likely would a pitch invasion be if we managed a shout out win?

Pauldaly1984 wrote: Meyler and long in. O dowda and murphy out. I'd push hendrick up and keep Wes on bench until half hour to go. Thought last night was calling out for mcgeady. Wouldn't mind him starting on Tuesday. The only man who can get a hold of the call and bring it forward with him in a controlled fashion. When mcclean does it it's usually just through pace.

I disagree completely with the 'AndyReid-itis' theory that some people are proposing about Wes, and I reckon if he doesn't start we can kiss Russia goodbye. Also, Long - albeit not in good form - has to start. He won and held up more ball in 15 mins than Murphy did all game. Murphy is hopelessly lacking for what's needed, tbf.

Maccatacca wrote: Was rethinking our starting eleven, and I think that Meyler-Arter-Hendrick will be the midfield, with Hendrick pushing up. I think Long will come in for Murphy. That would be a very energetic midfield that would be looking to open the Danes through power and aggression rather than any real technical skill - would also be defensively sound.

They did a lot of chasing last night so could be he'll go with fresher legs in Meyler, Whelan and Long.

Maccatacca wrote: Was rethinking our starting eleven, and I think that Meyler-Arter-Hendrick will be the midfield, with Hendrick pushing up. I think Long will come in for Murphy. That would be a very energetic midfield that would be looking to open the Danes through power and aggression rather than any real technical skill - would also be defensively sound.

Totally agree. 4-2-3-1 for me with Hendrick playing as the no.10 supporting Shane Long. Arter and Meyler as the two sitting midfielders. A high press as well is imperative. We have to get into their faces and with the fans behind us get them rattled.

Stickittotheman wrote: Totally agree. 4-2-3-1 for me with Hendrick playing as the no.10 supporting Shane Long. Arter and Meyler as the two sitting midfielders. A high press as well is imperative. We have to get into their faces and with the fans behind us get them rattled.

Hendrik has played that role poorly already and to be honest his best games for us have been out wide.

How about?

          Arter Meyler

Hendrik                  McClean

                 Wes

raclle wrote: Stickittotheman wrote: Totally agree. 4-2-3-1 for me with Hendrick playing as the no.10 supporting Shane Long. Arter and Meyler as the two sitting midfielders. A high press as well is imperative. We have to get into their faces and with the fans behind us get them rattled. Hendrik has played that role poorly already and to be honest his best games for us have been out wide. How about?           Arter Meyler Hendrik                  McClean                  Wes

I personally don’t think that even with Hoolahan, we can win games against similar level teams by playing through the middle.

The perfect balance is a mix between direct, and through the midfield, and while Jeff obviously isn’t a number 10, his physical attributes give the opposition plenty to think about, while he can conjure an odd moment of magic.

Wes is a quality player, but I just love the idea of the likes of Meyler, Arter, Hendrick and McClean running around, chasing everything and not giving the opposition a second - that’s what led to our goal in Cardiff.

In an ideal world, we manage to get Wes into the team and play a balance of direct/technical football, but that would involve dropping Robbie Brady, and that just isn’t going to happen under Martin O’Neill - righty or wrongly.

I think explaining Murphy's performance as based on his abilities is wide of the mark. We are currently missing Coleman, McCarthy, and Walters. We lost Meyler to suspension. Long and Wes were out due to suspension. McGeady has been a more peripheral figure over the past two years. However, that means that our most innovative players are not on the pitch. Brady has struggled to fulfil that role in the way we all would have hoped he might since 2016. What hasn't been spoken of is the fact that we are a depleted side, which needs to find the best team it can, and the best formula to fit that team. This limits our ability to be innovative, which in turn penalises Murphy who is expected to lead a line, where there is significant disconnect. He made a difference of sorts against Austria when he was moved up front with Walters, and was a threat against Moldova. He did reasonably well against Wales under this limited system, and last night he wasn't able to influence the game. I'm not sure dropping Murphy for Long will make a huge difference.

I would have thought the Danish qualifying odds might shorten a bit after Saturday. Reason being that they showed a bit more attacking threat than Ireland, and they only need a score draw. The bookies must not be so confident that the Danes can put one in the Irish net. 

Edited by BriMurt - 12 Nov 2017 at 10:12pm