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RayHoughton
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That was an old school spanking. And it has been coming. Christie showed signs of being a good player throughout the campaign but was found out last night. Mcgeady offers nothing but heartache and shane long is in a funk he cant get out of. Hendrick was still on the bus and the tactics were a shambles. We scored an early goal and instead of keeping hold of the ball, we let Denmark get settled and build up confidence.
On the very small plus side, Randolph kept us in it at the start of the game and McClean was the only man pressing the opposition.
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Nax
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Think this has been coming for a long long time. A defeat like that to a by no means exceptional side. Very simple, set up wrong tactically allow time and space and the team youre playing plays the easiest of simple passing football. Something that isnt embedded in Irish kids at a young age or this Irish side. You can say thats the way they play and you may grind out a few results but eventually like tonight you will be caught out. Big overhaul in the mentality and approach to the game needed in the country. Georgia a prime example doing the simple things well. basic passing coupled with fight ,pressure and intensity. The fight part we usually have and we miss out on the basics but tonight we didnt have either.
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okidoki987
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Went home and watched Dunphy and co on TV and they didn't hold back and rightly so. Dunphy came out with an interesting stat, pre match. When Wez plays, we score a goal average every 46 minutes, when he doesn't, we score a goal average every 133 minutes! Not sure starting him would have made any difference to the result last night but would have been a bit better. Felt sorry for McClean being interviewed straight after you've been knocked out of the World Cup isn't really the right time. |
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greenmachine68
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Good luck to Denmark, good team and people. The World Cup won't be the same, because there will be nobody playing our outdated football! |
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Gary McKay
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Eriksen is not 'over-rated' nor is he a Grade A World Class player.
He will never in his life be given as much space on a pitch as he was given last night. Eriksen aside, Denmark are an average side and are no better than Ireland just more intelligent and have a manager who knows what he's doing. If they get a tough group in Russia they wont get out of it but good luck to them anyway. Wales fans |
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"Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex
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Roberto Baggio
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Robbie Brady's still looking for his brother and girlfriend in the crowd since Lille it seems
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Gavintheslob
Jack Charlton It’s Nessa actually Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Location: Slobsville Status: Offline Points: 7300 |
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I remember this, complete and utter madness. duffy did the same on a couple of occasions, just lashing it forward to nobody
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Its very frustrating being a Slob
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Maccatacca
Ray Houghton Joined: 01 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 4217 |
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Bizzare is the only word for the whole show.
Will be taking a break from this forum and Irish football for a few weeks after this one but here’s my confused and angry thoughts on game: For a start, I don’t feel particularly devastated. Last nights performance was utterly sobering, a 2-1 loss or a 1-1 away goal defeat in extra time would be devestating, but to go out and take the lead against such an average side, and then to capitulate in such dramatic fashion is not devastating its just eye opening. Eye opening to the complete lack of tactical nous on behalf of Martin O’Neill. So we went 1-0 up after a few minutes, and what followed for about 15 minutes was pretty decent. We were first to every ball, winning every tackle and making chances. While Randolph had two good saves to make, we genuinely could of been 3-0 up at one stage, we were creating chances and had that one that skimmed the side netting, and I think McClean was put through and dragged it wide. Then we conceded the worst goal I have ever seen us concede in Lansdowne Road, and the players just fell apart and starting attacking like fooking mad men. What was O’Neill trying to achieve? It was 1-1 after 30 odd minutes - Denmark had the slight advantage, but just 5/10 minutes previously we were first to every ball and doing things for the most part right. But, clearly the players were instructed to go hell for leather In search of a second goal, and that’s where we gifted them their second. After they scored the second, what followed didn’t really matter because we were never scoring two with 50 odd minutes to go - but when we conceded the equalizer, why didn’t Mr O’Neill instruct the players to relax, take the sting out of the game and get it to 1-1 at HT? His substitutions were woeful, and Long should of started this game, we had enough chances inside the opening 25 minutes to win the game, and Longs pace in behind surely could of added a chance or two more. When you are a team built around organization, and hard work, the last thing you do is change your formation to something that resembled 2-7-1 and hope that you nick a goal, we absolutely gifted Denmark this game, and there was actually a moment at around 25 mins when their manager was shown on the big screen with his head in his hands, I fully believe that he thought Ireland would hold onto to 1-0 at that stage, and he probably couldn’t believe his luck when we gave away the two softest goals ever seen, and O’Neill starting making rediculous subs like bringing on Aiden McGeady and changing around the back line drastically. Martin lost the head last night, and embarrassed us infront of the worlds eyes. The 6-1 against Germany was bad enough, but 5-1 against Denmark from a WINNING POSISTION is attrotious and for this reason he has to go. PS: for any Wales fans, how did your game against Panama go last night? |
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GB 1HughJarse
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Denmark hardly set the world alight in qualifying. Didn’t qualify for 2014 WC or Euro 2016. But well done last night. |
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22175 |
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This has always been Martin's way......Pure Gung-Ho because of our great "heart and passion" qualities The simple fact is our players are instructed to have zero composure on the ball and as a result we hand possession back to the opposition at an alarming rate. When you score you are most at your most vulnerable to concede, as it's been said keep it tight for 5/10 minutes after we scored would have been logical.
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adineen98
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In fairness, when I was posting that, I let my emotions get the better of me and admittedly wasn't thinking straight |
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Tír gan teanga, tír gan anam
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Gary McKay
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Understandable. |
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Maccatacca
Ray Houghton Joined: 01 Jun 2016 Status: Offline Points: 4217 |
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The goal from the corner shouldn’t have been conceded in a million years, but you can forgive one poorly given away goal every now and then - but to then panic and immediately try and go on the attack is mental, and to concede another goal from what could only be described as panic, is absolute amateur hour from both the players and the management team. I’m not even bothered analyzing the final three goals - they were all as a direct consequence of the panic that ensued when goals 1 and 2 went in. I don’t see how O’Neill will ever have the trust of the players in that dressing room again, he hung them out to dry. |
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LovelyLiam
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Heartbroken after last nights performance. I can't get my head around the sudden change in formation, the panic at 1-1 and incredibly disappointing half time substitutions. As much as I would like to take some positives from the game I really can't. I can only imagine how awful the players and management feel this morning looking back on the game and all that went wrong. We really threw it away and allowed an average Denmark team to look world class!
It's been a roller-coaster campaign (when is it ever not with Ireland) and the team gave it everything (despite the mistakes of last night). We got to within 90 mins of a WC with a win all that was required to get us there. It's going to take a long time for me to get over that disappointment. Here's hoping we can take the much needed break to reassess, develop new players and do it all again for the European champs qualifying in a years time.
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gazurtoids
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He did that several times on Friday too...as did others I can't believe a manager would instruct players to boot it anywhere ......it's not long ball (it's not even Jacks version of kicking it into a space) it's a panic hoof |
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tony grealish
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This has to be a wind up? You think it was a great idea to take off our two defensive midfield players leaving us with no protection whatsoever in front of the back four and allowing Eriksen drift around that pocket of space to do as he pleased? |
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''I've had a rough night and I hate the f**kin eagles, man!!''
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mandrake
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well said, i would agree with all that...we got dragged into a football game (sounds strange) but its not a think martin oneill can manage , his games have to be a battle not free flowing... very disappointed...we can make the euro2020, just a bit of patience and planning a better approach to games.. let a few players go and give new players a chance... we'll get over the disappointment, life goes on....if its ANY colsolation france2009 was harder to take |
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Come on Irelind
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Shedite
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Don't know where I am after last night. Left after the 4th goals, was distraught.
Think the hope had me too excited and it was a massive letdown. A spanking to f**king Denmark! Thought we were willing to put up with sh*t football on the condition we don't get spanked. O'Neill should go, he's a shell of his former self, looks like he's lost his confidence, panicked bigtime last night. The first 2 goals we conceded were awful. Smashing atmosphere for the first half hour. Think I'm taking a break from Ireland for a year or so!
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