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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through
why not aspire to play well and still go through.
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The Swiss are far better than Denmark. Fair play to NI, nearly did it, with a supposedly less talented team than ours, but I swear they seem to play better football than us any time I see them play. 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through






Playing sh*te and getting the result > playing well and not getting the result
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Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through
why not aspire to play well and still go through.


Can't believe O'Neill or any other professional football manager that's ever managed never thought of that statement of the obvious.
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All comes down to risk and reward. Last two managers we have had have come to the belief that if we get it down and pass it in midfield we are risking getting caught out at the back. As a result they play low risk football by keeping our shape and never passing into midfield. It's why we play out best stuff when we are behind as we then do risk it. Not the wag I would do it but as a supporter I want us to qualify so no morale victories.

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Originally posted by Icy Bread People Icy Bread People wrote:

The Swiss are far better than Denmark. Fair play to NI, nearly did it, with a supposedly less talented team than ours, but I swear they seem to play better football than us any time I see them play. 

NI gave it a great go tonight and nearly grabbed the away goal.

I'm sure though we'll see a lot more attacking football from us on Tuesday. There's no way we'll have 28% possession in a home play off.
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Originally posted by Icy Bread People Icy Bread People wrote:

The Swiss are far better than Denmark. Fair play to NI, nearly did it, with a supposedly less talented team than ours, but I swear they seem to play better football than us any time I see them play. 


On a par i would say. Swiss are to toothless in attack. Woeful in front of goal and should have won the tie very comfortably
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through


Playing sh*te and getting the result > playing well and not getting the result

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Flawed logic!

Who says we wont get the result playing well?

Playing well creates more chances.

Playing sh*te creates danger.

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through


They went out via an atrocious decision. They took on the Swiss and almost got the better of them away from home. It certainly worked better for them than their ultra-conservative approach did in the home leg.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through


They went out via an atrocious decision. They took on the Swiss and almost got the better of them away from home. It certainly worked better for them than their ultra-conservative approach did in the home leg.

The Swiss should’ve won tonight by 3 or 4.
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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

t and nearly grabbed the away goal.

I'm sure though we'll see a lot more attacking football from us on Tuesday. There's no way we'll have 28% possession in a home play off.

maybe not 28% but we'll probably have 35 or 40 at best
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Originally posted by raclle raclle wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through


Playing sh*te and getting the result > playing well and not getting the result

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Flawed logic!

Who says we wont get the result playing well?

Playing well creates more chances.

Playing sh*te creates danger.




Of course playing well does, but you don't decide to play well or play poorly you decide to take risks or not. If you break it down, playing "well" usually means getting it down playing through midfield and or pushing on against the other team and putting them under pressure. However all of that carries a risk esp with our centre backs who lack real pace. If you push up that is more likely to be exposed so it's all about judgement calls.
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Ffs are we been brainwashed into thinking that if we start passing to each other we will start getting opened up at will. Look at last night, we had one real chance on goal. Christie making a good run. apart from that not a single thing. Its depressing.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by raclle raclle wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

NI, with inferior players and against a better opposition, showing that it's possible to play a mixture of long-ball and good football tonight against the Swiss. No reason we can't do similarly against Denmark on Tuesday.


They went out though. Would.rather we play sh*te and go.through


Playing sh*te and getting the result > playing well and not getting the result

Embarrassed

Flawed logic!

Who says we wont get the result playing well?

Playing well creates more chances.

Playing sh*te creates danger.




Of course playing well does, but you don't decide to play well or play poorly you decide to take risks or not. If you break it down, playing "well" usually means getting it down playing through midfield and or pushing on against the other team and putting them under pressure. However all of that carries a risk esp with our centre backs who lack real pace. If you push up that is more likely to be exposed so it's all about judgement calls.
The Danes have no pace up front.
Us playing well means higher line and pressure with support play which we haven't done since the Euros.
Its a very thin line how we've been playing throughout this campaign.
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Ed on the footballrankingsinfo website has issued a new prediction after 1st leg.

Denmark to qualify
Before 1st leg: 51%
Now after 1st leg: 45%

Ireland to qualify
Before 1st leg: 42%
Now after 1st leg: 47%

PSO: 8%

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Originally posted by GB 1HughJarse GB 1HughJarse wrote:

Ed on the footballrankingsinfo website has issued a new prediction after 1st leg.

Denmark to qualify
Before 1st leg: 51%
Now after 1st leg: 45%

Ireland to qualify
Before 1st leg: 42%
Now after 1st leg: 47%

PSO: 8%

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What does PSO mean?

Don’t buy into this to be honest, the Danes were huge mathematical favourites in the first leg, and look how that turned out.
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