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Lovely finish for his goal last night & showed serious pace to get into position in the first place. Seems to be improving the more he plays - 100 % worthy of his place in the Irish team/squad.
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he is showing good form and hard work rate needs to keep it up and piss on get few more goals under his belt 
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

League 1 is his level, he has pace and is pysical and he can fashion out a great career for himself, but it wouldn't see him do well in the championship.

If people want ireland to qualify for tournaments we need to get players with good technical ability not just hard workers. Ogbene's technical ability is not good enough to see us do that from what I've seen so far.

Kenny's approach is more in line with technical players. I think people are blinded by his goals in a green shirt and the fact that he's a lovely lad.



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Hopefully being Nigerian by birth, Ogbene won't be inflicted with the generational low esteem that's passed on thorough osmosis.

Some batsh*te thoughts on here. If Ogbene can't catch a break, then based on the rest of team, we may as well disband the international team.


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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

League 1 is his level, he has pace and is pysical and he can fashion out a great career for himself, but it wouldn't see him do well in the championship.

If people want ireland to qualify for tournaments we need to get players with good technical ability not just hard workers. Ogbene's technical ability is not good enough to see us do that from what I've seen so far.

Kenny's approach is more in line with technical players. I think people are blinded by his goals in a green shirt and the fact that he's a lovely lad.



Imagine being blinded by a striker's goals.

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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

League 1 is his level, he has pace and is pysical and he can fashion out a great career for himself, but it wouldn't see him do well in the championship.

If people want ireland to qualify for tournaments we need to get players with good technical ability not just hard workers. Ogbene's technical ability is not good enough to see us do that from what I've seen so far.

Kenny's approach is more in line with technical players. I think people are blinded by his goals in a green shirt and the fact that he's a lovely lad.



He has played really well since he has come into the team. Simple as that. Gives us something we don't have. He may not be the most technical player but so what. Its not as if we can just go out and suddenly pick these gifted players on the ball. 
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scores goals and he's a nice lad. I'm happy to be blinded if this is what all our forwards are like!!
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He's not ever gonna be the most technical player but it takes all sorts to make a team and what he brings to the mix is something we badly needed over the last few games
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It boils down to two things. 

1) does the player suit the system that can Kenny wants to play?

2) people inflate the standard of international football way over what it deserves. When you're not sitting in the top 10 or 15 teams in the world, then not much has changed in international football over the years. A well drilled team who knows what they're doing collectively and individually will always have a chance. 

And if you're lucky enough to have a generational player come along into that mix....Lewandoeski,  Bale, Ibrahimovic... then you go up a notch again.

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some awful rubbish on here.
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Some amount of bollox alright! Not international standard? Define international standard from an Irish perspective? 

One of the best performers under Kenny, yet shouldn't be in the squad..

Once all these world class players we have come through to replace Ogbene, we can get rid! Confused
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Is his technical ability any worse than mccleans? I would say not a chance.. if he can also go on to score 11 goals for Ireland I will be very happy Clap
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I like Ogbene - and not just because he's a nice guy, he's also developing really well as a footballer. Yes, he was mainly raw pace and not much else when he first went to Rotherham but he has really kicked on a level in the last year. Some players develop later than others and Ogbene is one who is doing it in his mid 20s but that doesn't matter as long as he is developing well, which he is.

I thought his goal last night was a really smart finish actually. Similar to one Wes scored for Cambridge a few weeks ago. He's well worth a place in the squad and I can see him becoming a solid Championship player - at the very least - in the next year or two.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

League 1 is his level, he has pace and is pysical and he can fashion out a great career for himself, but it wouldn't see him do well in the championship.

If people want ireland to qualify for tournaments we need to get players with good technical ability not just hard workers. Ogbene's technical ability is not good enough to see us do that from what I've seen so far.

Kenny's approach is more in line with technical players. I think people are blinded by his goals in a green shirt and the fact that he's a lovely lad.


What message would Kenny be sending out if he calls up players, they play brilliant and score goals and then he drops them? Confused He has earned his place cause he played well in Kenny's system. 

In the long term he might not be good enough but he will be in the next squad on merit.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

When we fail to qualify for a tournament or even win a game for that matter, the finger gets pointed at Kenny or whomever the manager is at the time. Calls for him to be replaced with another manager rings loud and clear.

In order to win games we need players that can play to a high standard, this shouldn't shock anyone. 

We've had some good players in the past, I'm not including world class players like Roy Keane, mcgrath, Brady etc just the good players like Duff, Dunne, mcateer, Houghton etc.

We have Coleman and Duffy who can be considered good players, Doherty maybe but very hit or miss.

Our midfield and attack are black holes in terms of ability, Robinson being the stand out and he's only ok at best if we're being honest.

We're going into these games in the next couple of weeks and the quality isn't there (yet) 

Ogbene is not going to be a player that meets the ambition of the team to qualify for tournaments. But if he plays and we lose you'll point the finger at Kenny... 

So basically, we have loads of crap players so we need to drop Ogbene because he is crap and replace him with a different crap player LOL
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by djhegzy djhegzy wrote:

Is his technical ability any worse than mccleans? I would say not a chance.. if he can also go on to score 11 goals for Ireland I will be very happy Clap

No, his technical ability is no worse than mcclean but this is probably partially the reason we havent qualified for the world cup for 20+ years. 

Look, I'm being harsh of Ogbene, I know that. I'm definitely not ruling out him proving me wrong. I'll happily wear egg on my face if that's the case.

I'd place him in the same box as Horgan, did well for us when he came on, gave 100% without a doubt but probably not someone who's going to turn it around for us medium to long term.

If I'm wrong fair enough.

It's just odd. It's not like Ogbene is keeping out a better player. Why is he getting grief?

I don't think there's any player better that what we have that Kenny isn't picking. (Maybe Ronan, but expect a call up on Friday)

We have a load of middling players that aren't up to "standard". No beef with them?

The issue isn't Ogbene. It's the team. The weakest selection we've had in nearly 40 years. We are where we are. 

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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

Originally posted by djhegzy djhegzy wrote:

Is his technical ability any worse than mccleans? I would say not a chance.. if he can also go on to score 11 goals for Ireland I will be very happy Clap

No, his technical ability is no worse than mcclean but this is probably partially the reason we havent qualified for the world cup for 20+ years. 

Look, I'm being harsh of Ogbene, I know that. I'm definitely not ruling out him proving me wrong. I'll happily wear egg on my face if that's the case.

I'd place him in the same box as Horgan, did well for us when he came on, gave 100% without a doubt but probably not someone who's going to turn it around for us medium to long term.

If I'm wrong fair enough.

He's done more than Horgan and shown more than Horgan ever has in an Ireland jersey ffs LOL

As said about, why are you focussing in on Ogbene? Should be dropped out of the squad and for who? What's your expectation for Irish players and why are you being harsh on him? It makes no sense, it's not like he's been parachuted into the squad at the expense of someone better and has failed miserably LOL

He's quick, he seems to love player for Ireland and is a good personality. Happy for him to be in and around the senior squad until form rules him out or pure quality in his position keeps him out. 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

So basically, we have loads of crap players so we need to drop Ogbene because he is crap and replace him with a different crap player LOL

well summarised LOLLOLLOL
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Biggest load of sh*t that I've seen on here lmao. Ogbene was immense for us against both Portugal and Luxembourg. His technical ability was good enough to go up against a strong Portugal defense.

Imo racial bias is the main reason he's only described as being fast and powerful. The exact same thing happened Thomas Partey when he signed for Arsenal. Only described as strong and powerful when his technical ability is by far his strongest attribute.

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