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 Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:38pm |
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there is a T&C in te Season Tickets that in the case the capacity is not suitable the ST holders may not get a ticket. Thats what anyone with a ST signed up to. So as harsh as it may be, thats what you signed on the dotted line for and also not something that happens often or ever until now perhaps. So if ST holders have missed out or do miss out from either side, then tough beans. |
My understanding of the relevant term is that season ticket holders will not be automatically entitled to a ticket if the amount of season ticket holders exceed the ground's capacity. That's not the case here
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:44pm |
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corkery wrote:
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If that happens it's a shambles. It should have been a 50/50 split at best .
I suppose GAA won't do any favours for Kildare now so not surprised.
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You can't do that. All thoses fans done a deal with the GAA for many years to ensure that they'd have tickets for games like this. These fans would have gone to all the league games too. The season ticket system would collapse if season ticket holders were passed over for newbies.
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Exactly correct. Mayo had around 10,000 below in Limerick and Thurles. How many did Kildare bring to Derry or up the road to Longford? Not a lot I would guess. Mayo also hugely outnumbered Kildare in Newbridge in the league earlier this year. If season ticket holders aren't looked after then what is the point of having it. |
Of course they can do that ,there is no guarantee of a ticket just because you are involved in one of the ticket schemes.You look after ST holders as best you can but not to the detriment of the other team.
The fairest way, look after the people with 100% ST records and work down as far as your allocation allows. There shouldn't be a general sale needed ,players sponsors get tickets and then the rest given to CBs to distribute via ticket schemes etc.
Its farcical to give an away team over 75% of tickets .I'm told by a cop on duty last Saturday in Longford,Kildare had about 3k or so at the game.
I dont see how poeple can't see that's it s not a huge issue. |
The game should 100% be in Newbridge if Kildare want it there but this is the consequence of having it there. The Season Ticket was marketed as guaranteeing you entrance to all your team's games and an All Ireland Final ticket if your team gets there and you attend at least 60% of League and Championship. From what I can see in the terms, the only exception to this if the ground is too small to fit all the season ticket holders. This isn't the case here. Were the GAA to limit the amount of season ticket holders allowed into this game then they would be breaking their own rules in the same way they did with Kildare. It would be unacceptable.
Edit: This is the relevant term.
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium
capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to
that fixture.
Edited by the_walls - 27 Jun 2018 at 9:52pm
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:45pm |
the_walls wrote:
9fingers wrote:
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f**k them. It’s an away game, no away fan should guaranteed a ticket |
Then what's the point of the season ticket system?
And after the ructions on here over the years with away allocations and the FAI  |
50/50 split, I’m not talking about a 5% allocation The sense of entitlement is strong here! |
Ah here will ya get the boat with sense of entitlement, for asking a question?
Again, what is the point of the season ticket scheme if you aren't going to admit some season ticket holders? |
It’s not just yourself though is it. Multiple posters informing us there’ll be 75% of the allocation definitely going to mayo as they’ve the larger following is a sense of entitlement whether you like it or not. It’s a home game for Kildare, what’s the point of home & away games so.... sure just play every game in Croker and be done with all home advantage. The season ticket is a great idea, and works well but for grounds where capacity is less than demand then sadly some will miss out. Those moss deserving should get them.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:49pm |
9fingers wrote:
the_walls wrote:
9fingers wrote:
the_walls wrote:
9fingers wrote:
f**k them. It’s an away game, no away fan should guaranteed a ticket |
Then what's the point of the season ticket system?
And after the ructions on here over the years with away allocations and the FAI |
50/50 split, I’m not talking about a 5% allocation The sense of entitlement is strong here! |
Ah here will ya get the boat with sense of entitlement, for asking a question?
Again, what is the point of the season ticket scheme if you aren't going to admit some season ticket holders? |
It’s not just yourself though is it. Multiple posters informing us there’ll be 75% of the allocation definitely going to mayo as they’ve the larger following is a sense of entitlement whether you like it or not. It’s a home game for Kildare, what’s the point of home & away games so.... sure just play every game in Croker and be done with all home advantage. The season ticket is a great idea, and works well but for grounds where capacity is less than demand then sadly some will miss out. Those moss deserving should get them. |
"those most deserving should get them? if only they was a way to figure this out......say perhaps a scheme.....maybe some sort of ticketing scheme. ..
oh wait .....
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:51pm |
the_walls wrote:
rossieman wrote:
the_walls wrote:
corkery wrote:
rossieman wrote:
If that happens it's a shambles. It should have been a 50/50 split at best .
I suppose GAA won't do any favours for Kildare now so not surprised.
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You can't do that. All thoses fans done a deal with the GAA for many years to ensure that they'd have tickets for games like this. These fans would have gone to all the league games too. The season ticket system would collapse if season ticket holders were passed over for newbies.
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Exactly correct. Mayo had around 10,000 below in Limerick and Thurles. How many did Kildare bring to Derry or up the road to Longford? Not a lot I would guess. Mayo also hugely outnumbered Kildare in Newbridge in the league earlier this year. If season ticket holders aren't looked after then what is the point of having it. |
Of course they can do that ,there is no guarantee of a ticket just because you are involved in one of the ticket schemes.You look after ST holders as best you can but not to the detriment of the other team.
The fairest way, look after the people with 100% ST records and work down as far as your allocation allows. There shouldn't be a general sale needed ,players sponsors get tickets and then the rest given to CBs to distribute via ticket schemes etc.
Its farcical to give an away team over 75% of tickets .I'm told by a cop on duty last Saturday in Longford,Kildare had about 3k or so at the game.
I dont see how poeple can't see that's it s not a huge issue. |
The game should 100% be in Newbridge if Kildare want it there but this is the consequence of having it there. The Season Ticket was marketed as guaranteeing you entrance to all your team's games and an All Ireland Final ticket if your team gets there and you attend at least 60% of League and Championship. From what I can see in the terms, the only exception to this if the ground is too small to fit all the season ticket holders. This isn't the case here. Were the GAA to limit the amount of season ticket holders allowed into this game then they would be breaking their own rules in the same way they did with Kildare. It would be unacceptable. |
My understanding of the rule is different but you may well be right and it wouldn't surprise me one bit.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:53pm |
Just in case you missed it Rossie because I only added it as an edit, this is the relevant term.
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium
capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to
that fixture.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:53pm |
kimbap wrote:
9fingers wrote:
the_walls wrote:
9fingers wrote:
the_walls wrote:
9fingers wrote:
f**k them. It’s an away game, no away fan should guaranteed a ticket |
Then what's the point of the season ticket system?
And after the ructions on here over the years with away allocations and the FAI |
50/50 split, I’m not talking about a 5% allocation The sense of entitlement is strong here! |
Ah here will ya get the boat with sense of entitlement, for asking a question?
Again, what is the point of the season ticket scheme if you aren't going to admit some season ticket holders? |
It’s not just yourself though is it. Multiple posters informing us there’ll be 75% of the allocation definitely going to mayo as they’ve the larger following is a sense of entitlement whether you like it or not. It’s a home game for Kildare, what’s the point of home & away games so.... sure just play every game in Croker and be done with all home advantage. The season ticket is a great idea, and works well but for grounds where capacity is less than demand then sadly some will miss out. Those moss deserving should get them. |
"those most deserving should get them? if only they was a way to figure this out......say perhaps a scheme.....maybe some sort of ticketing scheme. ..
oh wait ..... |
So everyone with a season ticket has 100% attendance...
Anyway that’s all that needs to be said, we’ll just be repeating ourselves. It’s a flawed system & home advantage is only an advantage if you’re a big county. Fair play to Kildare standing up for themselves
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:59pm |
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I'd say some Kildare fans are privately annoyed that the game is not taking place down the road in O'Moore Park! The Kildare county board in their eagerness to play in in Newbridge have basically locked out a huge amount of their own supporters from attending
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:59pm |
the_walls wrote:
Just in case you missed it Rossie because I only added it as an edit, this is the relevant term.
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium
capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to
that fixture. |
Thats a flawed T&C in itself as there will almost always be other ticketing comittments to fil, sponsors etc. Luckily this doesnt happen too often.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 9:59pm |
9fingers wrote:
the_walls wrote:
9fingers wrote:
the_walls wrote:
9fingers wrote:
f**k them. It’s an away game, no away fan should guaranteed a ticket |
Then what's the point of the season ticket system?
And after the ructions on here over the years with away allocations and the FAI |
50/50 split, I’m not talking about a 5% allocation The sense of entitlement is strong here! |
Ah here will ya get the boat with sense of entitlement, for asking a question?
Again, what is the point of the season ticket scheme if you aren't going to admit some season ticket holders? |
It’s not just yourself though is it. Multiple posters informing us there’ll be 75% of the allocation definitely going to mayo as they’ve the larger following is a sense of entitlement whether you like it or not. It’s a home game for Kildare, what’s the point of home & away games so.... sure just play every game in Croker and be done with all home advantage. The season ticket is a great idea, and works well but for grounds where capacity is less than demand then sadly some will miss out. Those moss deserving should get them. |
This is a consequence of the game being in Newbridge I'm afraid. Season ticket holders, whether you agree with it or not, are fully entitled to attend the game unless the stadium capacity is less than the amount of season ticket holders. This is the whole point of the season ticket.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 10:01pm |
Sham157 wrote:
the_walls wrote:
Just in case you missed it Rossie because I only added it as an edit, this is the relevant term.
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium
capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to
that fixture. |
Thats a flawed T&C in itself as there will almost always be other ticketing comittments to fil, sponsors etc. Luckily this doesnt happen too often. |
Fair point but it's the term none the less
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 10:05pm |
Trigboy 10 wrote:
I'd say some Kildare fans are privately annoyed that the game is not taking place down the road in O'Moore Park! The Kildare county board in their eagerness to play in in Newbridge have basically locked out a huge amount of their own supporters from attending
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They were supposedly offered the chance to nominate an alternative venue before hand in the event of a 'big draw' and they decided not to.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 10:52pm |
if you want to guarantee yourself entry to big games then there is one way to do this.
Buy a season ticket.
This option was available to Kildare,think they sold a few hundred.
Funnily enough that option not available to Mayo.....been sold out for years and is a waiting list.Those fans won't be getting tickets either.
By the way ,support for Kildares stance was massive from Mayo...same as the rest of the country.They were dead right but one if the consequences is not everyone who wants to go can.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 11:04pm |
the_walls wrote:
rossieman wrote:
the_walls wrote:
corkery wrote:
rossieman wrote:
If that happens it's a shambles. It should have been a 50/50 split at best .
I suppose GAA won't do any favours for Kildare now so not surprised.
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You can't do that. All thoses fans done a deal with the GAA for many years to ensure that they'd have tickets for games like this. These fans would have gone to all the league games too. The season ticket system would collapse if season ticket holders were passed over for newbies.
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Exactly correct. Mayo had around 10,000 below in Limerick and Thurles. How many did Kildare bring to Derry or up the road to Longford? Not a lot I would guess. Mayo also hugely outnumbered Kildare in Newbridge in the league earlier this year. If season ticket holders aren't looked after then what is the point of having it. |
Of course they can do that ,there is no guarantee of a ticket just because you are involved in one of the ticket schemes.You look after ST holders as best you can but not to the detriment of the other team.
The fairest way, look after the people with 100% ST records and work down as far as your allocation allows. There shouldn't be a general sale needed ,players sponsors get tickets and then the rest given to CBs to distribute via ticket schemes etc.
Its farcical to give an away team over 75% of tickets .I'm told by a cop on duty last Saturday in Longford,Kildare had about 3k or so at the game.
I dont see how poeple can't see that's it s not a huge issue. |
The game should 100% be in Newbridge if Kildare want it there but this is the consequence of having it there. The Season Ticket was marketed as guaranteeing you entrance to all your team's games and an All Ireland Final ticket if your team gets there and you attend at least 60% of League and Championship. From what I can see in the terms, the only exception to this if the ground is too small to fit all the season ticket holders. This isn't the case here. Were the GAA to limit the amount of season ticket holders allowed into this game then they would be breaking their own rules in the same way they did with Kildare. It would be unacceptable.
Edit: This is the relevant term.
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium
capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to
that fixture.
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That's about seats. Like Ennis, you're guaranteed entry but not a seat.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 11:33pm |
To be fair, it specifically mentions entry:
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 11:41pm |
the_walls wrote:
To be fair, it specifically mentions entry:
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture |
yeah it's mental! how many people would have known about this clause? Defo not me or any of my mates.Thankfully this isn't an issue as all season ticket holders of kildare and Mayo can be accommodated.
That communications guy Alan Milton from GAA on off the ball was a joke
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 11:47pm |
kimbap wrote:
the_walls wrote:
To be fair, it specifically mentions entry:
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture |
yeah it's mental! how many people would have known about this clause? Defo not me or any of my mates.Thankfully this isn't an issue as all season ticket holders of kildare and Mayo can be accommodated.
That communications guy Alan Milton from GAA on off the ball was a joke
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True! Was the same last night with Nicky Brennan so rude just had to keep going on and on! Disgraceful the both of them
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Posted: 27 Jun 2018 at 11:49pm |
the_walls wrote:
To be fair, it specifically mentions entry:
42. In the event that the number of Season Ticket holders exceeds stadium capacity the GAA offers no guarantee of the availability of seats or entry to that fixture |
Hmmm, as a season ticket holder I'd be very annoyed if that ever happened.
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