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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

They came 3rd this year in the under 21 tournament and only lost to Germany on penalties. 
Nothings changed so LOL
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It would seem they are starting to be seeing the benefits of the major overhaul of their system with St. George's Oark being the crown jewel. The clean up they have don't this year would suggest they could be building toward a World Cup challenging team.
Their current lot are a far way off but maybe in 5 years or so.
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Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
 
think it was a bit tongue in cheek CM
 
the success will likely go to their heads , that will get/or get taken on by  a big fancy agent who will promptly dump them in a few years as they don't make the breakthrough/be a success and slide down the leagues before ending up in a newspaper article  20 years hence 'where are they now'
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.

HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile


What I am saying is that England have benefited massively because of emigration in all aspects of sport and beyond....the vast majority voted for Brexit because of immigration.


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Their senior team has become everything they used to criticise in continental teams.

Dodgy goalkeepers. They play tippy-tappy football that goes nowhere. They lack any kind of fight and don't like it up 'em. And when the pressure comes on they buckle.


Edited by Terzino - 29 Oct 2017 at 7:38pm
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If Phil Foden can't make the breakthrough at City then they may as well close up that academy
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
Sweet Jesus!

Are people even counting these things these days?

In any case, half of those black players are Afro-Caribbean  and the other half mixed race and since they themselves are most likely 3rd generation, it means their grandparents came to the UK before we were even in the EU.

Or are you still getting your info about Britain from watching old episodes of 'Love They Neighbour'? Confused
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
 
think it was a bit tongue in cheek CM
 
the success will likely go to their heads , that will get/or get taken on by  a big fancy agent who will promptly dump them in a few years as they don't make the breakthrough/be a success and slide down the leagues before ending up in a newspaper article  20 years hence 'where are they now'
 
It happened straight after the final whistle!  Look at the way during the presentation ceremony the entire squad wore their shirts backwards so that their name and number would be in all the photos.
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Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
 
think it was a bit tongue in cheek CM
 
the success will likely go to their heads , that will get/or get taken on by  a big fancy agent who will promptly dump them in a few years as they don't make the breakthrough/be a success and slide down the leagues before ending up in a newspaper article  20 years hence 'where are they now'
 
It happened straight after the final whistle!  Look at the way during the presentation ceremony the entire squad wore their shirts backwards so that their name and number would be in all the photos.

Grab a hold of yourself there ffs Confused

They are all only kids! Imagine winning a World Cup at 16 or 17 years of age thousands of miles away from home, the excitement of it all.....
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
 
think it was a bit tongue in cheek CM
 
the success will likely go to their heads , that will get/or get taken on by  a big fancy agent who will promptly dump them in a few years as they don't make the breakthrough/be a success and slide down the leagues before ending up in a newspaper article  20 years hence 'where are they now'
 
It happened straight after the final whistle!  Look at the way during the presentation ceremony the entire squad wore their shirts backwards so that their name and number would be in all the photos.

Grab a hold of yourself there ffs Confused

They are all only kids! Imagine winning a World Cup at 16 or 17 years of age thousands of miles away from home, the excitement of it all.....
 
Odd then that we've never seen any team of any age group celebrate like this, ever.  Previous kids don't like excitement, then?
 
 
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Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
 
think it was a bit tongue in cheek CM
 
the success will likely go to their heads , that will get/or get taken on by  a big fancy agent who will promptly dump them in a few years as they don't make the breakthrough/be a success and slide down the leagues before ending up in a newspaper article  20 years hence 'where are they now'
 
It happened straight after the final whistle!  Look at the way during the presentation ceremony the entire squad wore their shirts backwards so that their name and number would be in all the photos.

Grab a hold of yourself there ffs Confused

They are all only kids! Imagine winning a World Cup at 16 or 17 years of age thousands of miles away from home, the excitement of it all.....
 
Odd then that we've never seen any team of any age group celebrate like this, ever.  Previous kids don't like excitement, then?
 
 
 
How many u17 world cup presentation ceremonys have you watched before?
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
 
think it was a bit tongue in cheek CM
 
the success will likely go to their heads , that will get/or get taken on by  a big fancy agent who will promptly dump them in a few years as they don't make the breakthrough/be a success and slide down the leagues before ending up in a newspaper article  20 years hence 'where are they now'
 
It happened straight after the final whistle!  Look at the way during the presentation ceremony the entire squad wore their shirts backwards so that their name and number would be in all the photos.
 
No end of pictures of previous presentation ceremonies with a simple Google search.
 
But I guess you're all right, let them enjoy themselves.  Goodness knows that was the high point of their entire professional careers.  All downhill from here.
 

 
Grab a hold of yourself there ffs Confused

They are all only kids! Imagine winning a World Cup at 16 or 17 years of age thousands of miles away from home, the excitement of it all.....
 
Odd then that we've never seen any team of any age group celebrate like this, ever.  Previous kids don't like excitement, then?
 
 
 
How many u17 world cup presentation ceremonys have you watched before?
 
A simple Google search bring up no end of picture of victorious underage World Cup winning team celebrations.  But having just won a World Cup, strangely none of thme feel the need to further big themselves up. 
 
But you're right, let the kids celebrate.  After all it will be the highpoint of their footballing careers. it's all downhill from here.  Most will be lucky to make appearances at middling Premier League clubs, let alone win senior international honours
 
 


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Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

Originally posted by newrynyuk newrynyuk wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Only 3 white lads.

With Brexit and 'foreigners out' this pool of talent will eventually dry up.
HB come on please .
Next you will be saying people not born here are not Irish , think about . Evil Smile
 
think it was a bit tongue in cheek CM
 
the success will likely go to their heads , that will get/or get taken on by  a big fancy agent who will promptly dump them in a few years as they don't make the breakthrough/be a success and slide down the leagues before ending up in a newspaper article  20 years hence 'where are they now'
 
It happened straight after the final whistle!  Look at the way during the presentation ceremony the entire squad wore their shirts backwards so that their name and number would be in all the photos.

Grab a hold of yourself there ffs Confused

They are all only kids! Imagine winning a World Cup at 16 or 17 years of age thousands of miles away from home, the excitement of it all.....
 
Odd then that we've never seen any team of any age group celebrate like this, ever.  Previous kids don't like excitement, then?
 
 

Is there a standard way to celebrate now? Confused

The simple fact is many posters on here find it impossible to give England any credit in just about everything sport related.

How petty is it to have to bring up how a group of kids celebrate in order to try and discredit England LOL
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It is a possibility with kids that they will lose the run of themselves though, especially in England where they are superstars and overpaid as soon as they get their first professional deal. I don't think it is bitterness or sour grapes or anything like that to suggest it. Many English fans I have talked about the result to have said similar.
Some are also perturbed about the coach being Welsh, not that they have a problem with that, more the lack of adequate English coaches.
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They've done well with a number of their underage teams this year. Whether they've won world championships or got to the final or semi finals. Its bound to start bearing fruit sooner or later for the senior team. All the players from these teams can't have bad attitudes and believe they've made it and get carried away with their own success. There's bound to be at least a handful will go on to be top players.
 
 
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