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Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



TJ, you're some man. Bhobcoin LOL

This is why I struggle to take you seriously on the Martin O'Neill thread. It's hard to gauge when you're on a wind up or just pretending to have a lack of comprehension skills. 


Then you shouldn't trust your judgement investing in cryptocurrency
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Originally posted by MC Hammered MC Hammered wrote:



TJ, you're some man. Bhobcoin LOL

This is why I struggle to take you seriously on the Martin O'Neill thread. It's hard to gauge when you're on a wind up or just pretending to have a lack of comprehension skills. 


Then you shouldn't trust your judgement investing in cryptocurrency

I haven't invested in it and don't plan to either. I don't actually have very strong feelings on the subject at all. I just understand the basic concept and some of the advantages of Cryptocurrency. Its relatively new and the price is all over the place but that will settle down in time. Patience you must have, my young Padawan. 

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I and others on this site have used it to pay for stuff online.

It's quite simple.

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Originally posted by randyrandolph randyrandolph wrote:



it is completely, 100%, different to a share of a company. A share in a company is based on the value of the company (assets, revenue etc...). A share of bitcoin is - as pointed out by a posted - magic beans LOL

You keep repeating this, but in actuality, bitcoin has more inherent value than either the dollar or the euro, or any other fiat currency for that matter. 

The dollar for instance, used to be backed by a tangible commodity - gold, but it was decoupled from the gold standard in the early 1970's and like the euro and almost all other major world currencies, can now be printed at will to increase or decrease supply, in order to influence interest rates, or to stimulate economies through quantitative easing. This means it's quite literally backed by nothing. Not any more, anyway.

Bitcoin on the other hand, enabled by blockchain technology, is 'mined'. Once a new one is created, a brand new (even more) complex mathematical equation is created to enable the 'mining' of the next bitcoin - and this can only happen 21,000,000 times. Its capping at 21 million bitcoins is what lends (and maintains) its inherent value.

This means bitcoin is actually backed by something (ok, digitally) tangible, unlike the paper money in your wallet and the 1's and 0's on your computer screen.

And TJ, the reason banks are telling you to stay away from bitcoin and other crypto currencies, is that the technology is so massively, massively disruptive to them. It represents decentralised monetization, taking all the power out of the hands of them and the central banks and putting it in the hands of anyone with a smart phone and a coin wallet. 

Bitcoin is a young currency and as such, any outside effects on it such as the closing down of MtGox or attempts by wold's nations to control or outlaw it has massive ramifications on price. But that will change and level out as time goes by and it becomes adopted by more and more. At the moment fluctuations caused by an outside event can look like the ripples caused by someone throwing a brick in a garden pond, but as the currency ages and becomes used by more, those ripples will look more and more like those from a pebble in a lake. 

Also, historically speaking, fiat currencies have on average over the centuries, lasted about 25 years. Like empires, they all have a half-life. As long as there is the internet, Bitcoin will most likely be there long after the dollar completely collapses, either caused by the end of the petro-dollar hegemony, or the weight of all the debt, derivatives and easing it's been under for so long now.




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TJ. , I was walking down a country lane yesterday and there was this farmer herding his cattle ahead of me to the market for sale when all of a sudden this yank appeared from nowhere and offered the farmer billions of bitcoin for the cows, the farmers eyes lit up and he fell for the deal, he was really happy and so was Gordon Geko, I just laughed later as I watched the farmer burying his magic coins
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Interesting. So who will pay for national infrastructure like roads and hospitals if this brilliant technology is adapted by all and sundry?
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Where we're going, we don't need roads, Marty
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Originally posted by heighway2heaven heighway2heaven wrote:

Where we're going, we don't need roads, Marty


The financial apocalypse?

So central banks will cease to exist. Thats a brilliant idea. Governments wont be able to collect taxes, transactions are completely anonymous, no accountability or come back if fraud has taken place, just an unregulated nirvana. Nobody to fund vital public services. And God forbid if any hacker could disrupt the system.


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Originally posted by heighway2heaven heighway2heaven wrote:

Originally posted by randyrandolph randyrandolph wrote:



it is completely, 100%, different to a share of a company. A share in a company is based on the value of the company (assets, revenue etc...). A share of bitcoin is - as pointed out by a posted - magic beans LOL

You keep repeating this, but in actuality, bitcoin has more inherent value than either the dollar or the euro, or any other fiat currency for that matter. 

The dollar for instance, used to be backed by a tangible commodity - gold, but it was decoupled from the gold standard in the early 1970's and like the euro and almost all other major world currencies, can now be printed at will to increase or decrease supply, in order to influence interest rates, or to stimulate economies through quantitative easing. This means it's quite literally backed by nothing. Not any more, anyway.

Bitcoin on the other hand, enabled by blockchain technology, is 'mined'. Once a new one is created, a brand new (even more) complex mathematical equation is created to enable the 'mining' of the next bitcoin - and this can only happen 21,000,000 times. Its capping at 21 million bitcoins is what lends (and maintains) its inherent value.

This means bitcoin is actually backed by something (ok, digitally) tangible, unlike the paper money in your wallet and the 1's and 0's on your computer screen.

And TJ, the reason banks are telling you to stay away from bitcoin and other crypto currencies, is that the technology is so massively, massively disruptive to them. It represents decentralised monetization, taking all the power out of the hands of them and the central banks and putting it in the hands of anyone with a smart phone and a coin wallet. 

Bitcoin is a young currency and as such, any outside effects on it such as the closing down of MtGox or attempts by wold's nations to control or outlaw it has massive ramifications on price. But that will change and level out as time goes by and it becomes adopted by more and more. At the moment fluctuations caused by an outside event can look like the ripples caused by someone throwing a brick in a garden pond, but as the currency ages and becomes used by more, those ripples will look more and more like those from a pebble in a lake. 

Also, historically speaking, fiat currencies have on average over the centuries, lasted about 25 years. Like empires, they all have a half-life. As long as there is the internet, Bitcoin will most likely be there long after the dollar completely collapses, either caused by the end of the petro-dollar hegemony, or the weight of all the debt, derivatives and easing it's been under for so long now.






no no no no no no no no no it is f****** nothing like the dollar. you will wake up once day and your magicbeancoins "sorry TJ i'm stealing the magic means quote" will be worth almost nothing. if you think central banks are going to even remotely let something interfere with the money system you are crazy. it is the biggest financial scam in history and you will be sorry you every invested in it. The fundamentals make no sense. Zero. fools, fools, everyone one of you. 

blockchain is brilliant and here to stay. but magicbeancoins (LOL) and their ridiculous "value" will bankrupt so many hard working people because they bought into this stupid and utterly ridiculous craze. we irish love a good tip but this horse is f**ked. it's not even a horse. it's show pony at best. 

i'm gone from this thread. too infuriating.



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So no takers on the funding of public services and infrastructure?

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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Interesting. So who will pay for national infrastructure like roads and hospitals if this brilliant technology is adapted by all and sundry?

Do you know how we currently fund infrastructure projects?
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Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Interesting. So who will pay for national infrastructure like roads and hospitals if this brilliant technology is adapted by all and sundry?

Do you know how we currently fund infrastructure projects?


Do you always answer a question witu a question?

Yes I do. Taxation and borrowing, private investment and EU. Do you?
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