Georgia v Ireland - 2 September

Gary McKay wrote: kearney304 wrote: Gary McKay wrote: Citizen wrote:  still undefeated in the group though. For a team the size of Ireland booing a team that is unbeaten is ridiculous tbh. we win on Tuesday we are top of the group. Seriously would ya fcukin cop on.   What's the population of Georgia who played 'little' Ireland off the park ?   Wales ? Georgia - 10 million  The Country NOT the US State

manchesterbhoy wrote: so much for the epl being the best league in the world when in fact its crippling us when we dont have 1 or 2 at the top teams,  this group of lads either dont know or possibly too scared to go on and win games from a position of strength, or is the manager keeping them negative? in Serbia when 1 up we should have closed things out but didnt and got lucky our players have a mentality that they are always playing backs to the wall football and potentially dont know how to be positive pains me to say it, scotland went to lithuania - a fairly similar ranked team to georgia, 5 celtic players in the sqaud who know how to win - yes the standard is lower in the SPFL but a winning habit is worth its weight in gold, had we been in the same position at the weekend would we have won? meyler's absence also a mystery, he got us up the park in moldova what we needed on saturday, whelan is done and leaving him with 3 more attack minded midfielders was suicide saturday was the worst i have witnessed in person, if we dont qualify from a position of strength time MON had a look at his position

Come on I know a load of Scottish fans who would have given their left testicle to have been in our position over the last 20 years and would still swap places with us. Can't take one weekends results and compare.    I said it on another thread as bad as our performances have been under trap and o Neill we could easily be in the Scottish position over that time. And I would not be surprised if we are in the next few campaigns. Are players are average at best and o Neill doesn't let them play. Sometimes it produces good results and sometimes like sat night it produces rubbish ones. More often than not it produces terrible performances too. Nothing has changed in that regard from trap other than we sometimes produce a big result I.e. Germany Italy etc.

so much for the epl being the best league in the world when in fact its crippling us when we dont have 1 or 2 at the top teams, 

Citizen wrote: 9fingers wrote: Citizen wrote: 9fingers wrote: Drumcondra 69er wrote: Citizen wrote: Best fans in the world my bollix, try getting behind the team. Self entitled idiots booing because the money they paid, get a grip ffs. The team does not owe you anything, and no one forced you to go to Georgia, ypu would have been better staying at home if that is the sort of sh*te you're at. I lost out on a house because I went to Georgia, ffs I've heard it all now. Talk about over the top reactions. Poor performance, but we are still in a good position in the group. Get behind the team when they need you. Save your outrage until we can't qualify. Lads calling for O'Neills head. Short f**king memories It's not just one poor performance either, there's a pattern there and that performance has been coming for a while. You'd have been screaming blue murder if a Trap team put in a performance like that. Exactly. It's not just 1 performance. We've been generally sh*te with a decent bit of luck thrown in and the odd good performance. This campaign alone has been a mess Serbia away, 2-2 draw with a late equaliser. 90 passes completed. Putrid stuff Georgia home 1-0 win. Very lucky goal from Coleman, poor performance Moldova away 3-1 win. Decent enough against the worst side in the group Austria away 1-0 win. Great result, thankfully Austria were poor, a draw would've been fair Wales home 0-0 draw. Poor from both sides Austria home 1-1. Austria unlucky not to get the win. Had the measure of us from the first minute Georgia away 1-1 draw. Completely outplayed & out thought. Thankfully their keeper had a brain fart in min 3. We deserved nothing. 150 passes completed. Long ball in 30 degree heat. One of the all time bad performances still undefeated in the group though. For a team the size of Ireland booing a team that is unbeaten is ridiculous tbh. we win on Tuesday we are top of the group. Thankfully our rivals have been as inept as ourselves but Grand yeah, We'll ignore the performances so don't ignore them. But booing the team and giving them the finger roaring abuse is not the same as analysing and criticising performances. Especially a team that is undefeated. That Georgian team beat Scotland there, they also drew with Spain and France there, so forgive me if I think the outrage is a little over the top.

I haven't once mentioned NVidic or other fans behaviour (that's another argument & im sure he'll ban himself from the forum for behaviour unbecoming of an Irish fan)
I'm analysing our performances under O Neill in this campaign.
Football is a results business was a great mantra of Trap, it's funny to see it rubbed off on so many fans unknowingly

Citizen wrote: 9fingers wrote: Citizen wrote: 9fingers wrote: Drumcondra 69er wrote: Citizen wrote: Best fans in the world my bollix, try getting behind the team. Self entitled idiots booing because the money they paid, get a grip ffs. The team does not owe you anything, and no one forced you to go to Georgia, ypu would have been better staying at home if that is the sort of sh*te you're at. I lost out on a house because I went to Georgia, ffs I've heard it all now. Talk about over the top reactions. Poor performance, but we are still in a good position in the group. Get behind the team when they need you. Save your outrage until we can't qualify. Lads calling for O'Neills head. Short f**king memories It's not just one poor performance either, there's a pattern there and that performance has been coming for a while. You'd have been screaming blue murder if a Trap team put in a performance like that. Exactly. It's not just 1 performance. We've been generally sh*te with a decent bit of luck thrown in and the odd good performance. This campaign alone has been a mess Serbia away, 2-2 draw with a late equaliser. 90 passes completed. Putrid stuff Georgia home 1-0 win. Very lucky goal from Coleman, poor performance Moldova away 3-1 win. Decent enough against the worst side in the group Austria away 1-0 win. Great result, thankfully Austria were poor, a draw would've been fair Wales home 0-0 draw. Poor from both sides Austria home 1-1. Austria unlucky not to get the win. Had the measure of us from the first minute Georgia away 1-1 draw. Completely outplayed & out thought. Thankfully their keeper had a brain fart in min 3. We deserved nothing. 150 passes completed. Long ball in 30 degree heat. One of the all time bad performances still undefeated in the group though. For a team the size of Ireland booing a team that is unbeaten is ridiculous tbh. we win on Tuesday we are top of the group. Thankfully our rivals have been as inept as ourselves but Grand yeah, We'll ignore the performances so don't ignore them. But booing the team and giving them the finger roaring abuse is not the same as analysing and criticising performances. Especially a team that is undefeated. That Georgian team beat Scotland there, they also drew with Spain and France there, so forgive me if I think the outrage is a little over the top.

Citizen wrote: 9fingers wrote: Drumcondra 69er wrote: Citizen wrote: Best fans in the world my bollix, try getting behind the team. Self entitled idiots booing because the money they paid, get a grip ffs. The team does not owe you anything, and no one forced you to go to Georgia, ypu would have been better staying at home if that is the sort of sh*te you're at. I lost out on a house because I went to Georgia, ffs I've heard it all now. Talk about over the top reactions. Poor performance, but we are still in a good position in the group. Get behind the team when they need you. Save your outrage until we can't qualify. Lads calling for O'Neills head. Short f**king memories It's not just one poor performance either, there's a pattern there and that performance has been coming for a while. You'd have been screaming blue murder if a Trap team put in a performance like that. Exactly. It's not just 1 performance. We've been generally sh*te with a decent bit of luck thrown in and the odd good performance. This campaign alone has been a mess Serbia away, 2-2 draw with a late equaliser. 90 passes completed. Putrid stuff Georgia home 1-0 win. Very lucky goal from Coleman, poor performance Moldova away 3-1 win. Decent enough against the worst side in the group Austria away 1-0 win. Great result, thankfully Austria were poor, a draw would've been fair Wales home 0-0 draw. Poor from both sides Austria home 1-1. Austria unlucky not to get the win. Had the measure of us from the first minute Georgia away 1-1 draw. Completely outplayed & out thought. Thankfully their keeper had a brain fart in min 3. We deserved nothing. 150 passes completed. Long ball in 30 degree heat. One of the all time bad performances still undefeated in the group though. For a team the size of Ireland booing a team that is unbeaten is ridiculous tbh. we win on Tuesday we are top of the group.

Thankfully our rivals have been as inept as ourselves but Grand yeah, We'll ignore the performances so

Gary McKay wrote: Citizen wrote:  still undefeated in the group though. For a team the size of Ireland booing a team that is unbeaten is ridiculous tbh. we win on Tuesday we are top of the group. Seriously would ya fcukin cop on.   What's the population of Georgia who played 'little' Ireland off the park ?   Wales ?

Wouldn't boo myself (understand why lads would though) but certainly wouldn't be applauding them off the pitch in Tbilisi after watching that sh*te. The performance was atrocious. Absolutely inexcusable sh*te and it has been coming. We have been putrid this campaign and somehow managed to find ourselves in an excellent position but have now pretty much thrown that away.

The campaign as a whole is beginning to resemble Traps last campaign. Yes we are unbeaten and we are so lucky to be in that position. We didn't deserve a point on Saturday night.

We go again on tomorrow night but I can't see for the life of me is lifting our performance that much to beat Serbia. Serbia I believe are no great shakes however if we allow them to play football the way we seem to allow everyone else to they will pass us off the park.

I will always have hope so long as we are still in the mix however that performance on Saturday night has seen my hope diminish quite rapidly.

As for MONs post match interview on RTÉ. I only seen it yesterday when I arrived back from Tbilisi but he is completely out of order. TOD is 100% justified in his questioning.



Edited by El_nino - 04 Sep 2017 at 9:06am

9fingers wrote: Long ball in 30 degree heat. One of the all time bad performances

As said before, it was no different the last time we were in Tbilisi, but we got the win so everyone forgot about it on the booze cruise in Bordeaux.

Even the last game against Austria, people were cheering the long ball hoof, saying what a great prudent tactic it was to have, because it got us the point.

We're 4 years on from Trap getting fired in Vienna airport, when everything was going to be all change and rosy in the garden afterwards. Since then, we have won 4 qualifiers away from home, whereas teams like Georgia were put away, home and away, before he showed up. Even Kerr managed to deal with them.