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Not great but it'll surely be cleaned up. Better than the Israel current sh*te we have.  
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Any pic of the new cres? Still old crest on twitter and instagram
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Any pic of the new cres? Still old crest on twitter and instagram

About 3 pages back there’s one 
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Very disappointed if that was our new crest. Its terrible with f**k all creativity. Looks like a temp in the fai did it up on Microsoft paint. I highly doubt it is as its that poor.
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Originally posted by drog addict drog addict wrote:

Very disappointed if that was our new crest. Its terrible with f**k all creativity. Looks like a temp in the fai did it up on Microsoft paint. I highly doubt it is as its that poor.

The font isnt even centred properly in the orange bit and the slanted shamrock looks gammy
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

I'm writing to by TD about this, taxpayers will have paid for this when my young lad could draw better. I bet there was a woman involved in this decision. It has a whiff of morketing Angry

I presume this is satire 

it'd be nice if it was wouldn't it
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What else do you expect from An english CEO with a very british design house with a company logo based on the British Army SAS.
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The thing here is, the fact we have several thousand fan pages on social media its very difficult to come up with a rebrand where our name, domain name and social media pages are aligned. If we have all matching taglines of Ireland Football then it works. Its better than Irish_Football_1971

There is a reason and thought put into every rebrand, its not as simple as "Thats a sh*t name, what a disgrace"


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Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

The thing here is, the fact we have several thousand fan pages on social media its very difficult to come up with a rebrand where our name, domain name and social media pages are aligned. If we have all matching taglines of Ireland Football then it works. Its better than Irish_Football_1971

There is a reason and thought put into every rebrand, its not as simple as "Thats a sh*t name, what a disgrace"


Not aimed at you Scotty but the idea what "we" need a re-brand is a load of bollocks. Let the FAI do their bollocksy off the field rebranding or whatever but this is the crest of a football shirt. 

Look at the other UEFA member crests: https://www.sporcle.com/games/Sheldon/fifa-logos-uefa

A shamrock / tricolour / harp graphic and one of "1921 / Ireland / Eire / Sacar /nothing " will do the job more effectively. Ireland Football is dopey on every level. Why do we need to write anything, could easily just leave it at Ireland if they are too ashamed to use the name of their own association. 

This is nothing to do with rebranding and everything to do with some fool in the FAI paying 40 or 50 grand for a marketing lass from Sh*tehawk Brand Solutions Ltd to come in a draw something up. 

I do not agree with you that national associations should take into account fan logo across social media. That was never the case in the past, it comes from the national association and not the other way around. Ireland's football branding has always been relatively straightforward going back to the 1920s, it's not a puzzler for somebody with a knowledge of the game in Ireland. It's pissing all over our football heritage and proves the new FAI is in some ways as bad as the Merrion Square crowd were.  


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Does this mean that the "F**k Delaney and the FAI" chant is now obsolete 🤔?
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Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

The thing here is, the fact we have several thousand fan pages on social media its very difficult to come up with a rebrand where our name, domain name and social media pages are aligned. If we have all matching taglines of Ireland Football then it works. Its better than Irish_Football_1971

There is a reason and thought put into every rebrand, its not as simple as "Thats a sh*t name, what a disgrace"


Not aimed at you Scotty but the idea what "we" need a re-brand is a load of bollocks. Let the FAI do their bollocksy off the field rebranding or whatever but this is the crest of a football shirt. 

Look at the other UEFA member crests: https://www.sporcle.com/games/Sheldon/fifa-logos-uefa

A shamrock / tricolour / harp graphic and one of "1921 / Ireland / Eire / Sacar /nothing " will do the job more effectively. Ireland Football is dopey on every level. Why do we need to write anything, could easily just leave it at Ireland if they are too ashamed to use the name of their own association. 

This is nothing to do with rebranding and everything to do with some fool in the FAI paying 40 or 50 grand for a marketing lass from Sh*tehawk Brand Solutions Ltd to come in a draw something up. 

I do not agree with you that national associations should take into account fan logo across social media. That was never the case in the past, it comes from the national association and not the other way around. Ireland's football branding has always been relatively straightforward going back to the 1920s, it's not a puzzler for somebody with a knowledge of the game in Ireland. It's pissing all over our football heritage and proves the new FAI is in some ways as bad as the Merrion Square crowd were.  
They need something (both a badge and name) that they can copyright. That’s why they can’t use the plain shamrock logo from the blue Qatar kit. Nothing to stop Penneys etc producing merchandise with the same logo if that was the case:

I do think the proposed logo looks incredibly amateurish having said all that. Hard to believe it’s not centred correctly, shamrock is not straight etc.


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So word on the street is there is a big shin-dig at the former FAI headquarters tonight now the Home of FSB i mean Ireland Football to unveil the new brand. I wonder will this include the Shirts?
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Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

The thing here is, the fact we have several thousand fan pages on social media its very difficult to come up with a rebrand where our name, domain name and social media pages are aligned. If we have all matching taglines of Ireland Football then it works. Its better than Irish_Football_1971

There is a reason and thought put into every rebrand, its not as simple as "Thats a sh*t name, what a disgrace"


Not aimed at you Scotty but the idea what "we" need a re-brand is a load of bollocks. Let the FAI do their bollocksy off the field rebranding or whatever but this is the crest of a football shirt. 

Look at the other UEFA member crests: https://www.sporcle.com/games/Sheldon/fifa-logos-uefa

A shamrock / tricolour / harp graphic and one of "1921 / Ireland / Eire / Sacar /nothing " will do the job more effectively. Ireland Football is dopey on every level. Why do we need to write anything, could easily just leave it at Ireland if they are too ashamed to use the name of their own association. 

This is nothing to do with rebranding and everything to do with some fool in the FAI paying 40 or 50 grand for a marketing lass from Sh*tehawk Brand Solutions Ltd to come in a draw something up. 

I do not agree with you that national associations should take into account fan logo across social media. That was never the case in the past, it comes from the national association and not the other way around. Ireland's football branding has always been relatively straightforward going back to the 1920s, it's not a puzzler for somebody with a knowledge of the game in Ireland. It's pissing all over our football heritage and proves the new FAI is in some ways as bad as the Merrion Square crowd were.  
They need something (both a badge and name) that they can copyright. That’s why they can’t use the plain shamrock logo from the blue Qatar kit. Nothing to stop Penneys etc producing merchandise with the same logo if that was the case
But they can easily make a straightforward logo and copyright that. Fair enough the crests of old were not copyrighted, but fairly sure the blue Umbro one is copyrighted. I'd also think O'Neills have their current shamrock design copyrighted. Nothing to stop the FAI copyrighting a plain design. Look at the Ukraine, Portugal and Serbia and logos. Nothing to stop the fai making a slightly slanted tricolour or shamrock. Plenty of FAs have no text in their logo and are still copyright protected

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Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

The thing here is, the fact we have several thousand fan pages on social media its very difficult to come up with a rebrand where our name, domain name and social media pages are aligned. If we have all matching taglines of Ireland Football then it works. Its better than Irish_Football_1971

There is a reason and thought put into every rebrand, its not as simple as "Thats a sh*t name, what a disgrace"


Not aimed at you Scotty but the idea what "we" need a re-brand is a load of bollocks. Let the FAI do their bollocksy off the field rebranding or whatever but this is the crest of a football shirt. 

Look at the other UEFA member crests: https://www.sporcle.com/games/Sheldon/fifa-logos-uefa

A shamrock / tricolour / harp graphic and one of "1921 / Ireland / Eire / Sacar /nothing " will do the job more effectively. Ireland Football is dopey on every level. Why do we need to write anything, could easily just leave it at Ireland if they are too ashamed to use the name of their own association. 

This is nothing to do with rebranding and everything to do with some fool in the FAI paying 40 or 50 grand for a marketing lass from Sh*tehawk Brand Solutions Ltd to come in a draw something up. 

I do not agree with you that national associations should take into account fan logo across social media. That was never the case in the past, it comes from the national association and not the other way around. Ireland's football branding has always been relatively straightforward going back to the 1920s, it's not a puzzler for somebody with a knowledge of the game in Ireland. It's pissing all over our football heritage and proves the new FAI is in some ways as bad as the Merrion Square crowd were.  
They need something (both a badge and name) that they can copyright. That’s why they can’t use the plain shamrock logo from the blue Qatar kit. Nothing to stop Penneys etc producing merchandise with the same logo if that was the case
But they can easily make a straightforward logo and copyright that. Fair enough the crests of old were not copyrighted, but fairly sure the blue Umbro one is copyrighted. I'd also think O'Neills have their current shamrock design copyrighted. Nothing to stop the FAI copyrighting a plain design. Look at the Ukraine, Portugal and Serbia and logos. Nothing to stop the fai making a slightly slanted tricolour or shamrock. Plenty of FAs have no text in their logo and are still copyright protected

You can try and copyright these things but people will make a slight adjustment on copied garments and you have no come back to challenge that. This is exactly the reason that GAA county boards changed from traditional logos (e.g. Dublin's 3 castles) to more complex designs i.e. they didn't want them to be copied. 
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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

Originally posted by giveittochristie giveittochristie wrote:

Originally posted by dangere_here dangere_here wrote:

Originally posted by scottyccfc scottyccfc wrote:

The thing here is, the fact we have several thousand fan pages on social media its very difficult to come up with a rebrand where our name, domain name and social media pages are aligned. If we have all matching taglines of Ireland Football then it works. Its better than Irish_Football_1971

There is a reason and thought put into every rebrand, its not as simple as "Thats a sh*t name, what a disgrace"


Not aimed at you Scotty but the idea what "we" need a re-brand is a load of bollocks. Let the FAI do their bollocksy off the field rebranding or whatever but this is the crest of a football shirt. 

Look at the other UEFA member crests: https://www.sporcle.com/games/Sheldon/fifa-logos-uefa

A shamrock / tricolour / harp graphic and one of "1921 / Ireland / Eire / Sacar /nothing " will do the job more effectively. Ireland Football is dopey on every level. Why do we need to write anything, could easily just leave it at Ireland if they are too ashamed to use the name of their own association. 

This is nothing to do with rebranding and everything to do with some fool in the FAI paying 40 or 50 grand for a marketing lass from Sh*tehawk Brand Solutions Ltd to come in a draw something up. 

I do not agree with you that national associations should take into account fan logo across social media. That was never the case in the past, it comes from the national association and not the other way around. Ireland's football branding has always been relatively straightforward going back to the 1920s, it's not a puzzler for somebody with a knowledge of the game in Ireland. It's pissing all over our football heritage and proves the new FAI is in some ways as bad as the Merrion Square crowd were.  
They need something (both a badge and name) that they can copyright. That’s why they can’t use the plain shamrock logo from the blue Qatar kit. Nothing to stop Penneys etc producing merchandise with the same logo if that was the case
But they can easily make a straightforward logo and copyright that. Fair enough the crests of old were not copyrighted, but fairly sure the blue Umbro one is copyrighted. I'd also think O'Neills have their current shamrock design copyrighted. Nothing to stop the FAI copyrighting a plain design. Look at the Ukraine, Portugal and Serbia and logos. Nothing to stop the fai making a slightly slanted tricolour or shamrock. Plenty of FAs have no text in their logo and are still copyright protected

You can try and copyright these things but people will make a slight adjustment on copied garments and you have no come back to challenge that. This is exactly the reason that GAA county boards changed from traditional logos (e.g. Dublin's 3 castles) to more complex designs i.e. they didn't want them to be copied. 


Even with these slight adjustments, you always have legal recourse though. Sure look at the logo of this site, had to be changed because the FAI/Umbro intended to use the retro crest on some gear. If Dunnes or Pennys made a knock-off version, take them to the cleaners. 
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