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TonyNotJack
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Posted: 09 Apr 2017 at 12:19am |
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At some stage his name will stop being funny, but that moment is not now. Courtney Duffas.
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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9554 |
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There's been a lot of talk about our striking options recently, and whether or not we'll need to recruit foreign-born attackers in the near future; so I thought I'd compile a list of the strikers currently available to us in the top 4 English divisions, the SPL, and a few select others plying their trade elsewhere.
*(Only those who have made senior appearances included) EPL: Shane Long- Southampton, 30 years old. Jon Walters- Stoke, 33 Courtney Duffus- Everton, 21 Sam Byrne- Everton, 21 Championship: Daryl Murphy- Newcastle, 34 Anthony Pilkington- Cardiff, 28 David McGoldrick- Ipswich, 29 Anthony Stokes- Blackburn, 28 Joe Mason- Wolves, 25 Leon Best- Ipswich, 30 Reece Grego-Cox- QPR, 20 Frank Mulhern- Huddersfield, 20 League One: Simon Cox- Southend, 29 Paddy Madden- S****horpe, 27 Aiden O'Brien- Millwall, 23 Dave Mooney- Southend, 32 Conor Wilkinson- Bolton, 22 Rory Gaffney- Bristol Rovers, 27 Billy Clarke- Bradford, 29 Joe Quigley- Gillingham, 20 League Two: Noel Hunt- Portsmouth, 34 Eoin Doyle- Portsmouth, 29 Gerry McDonagh- Cambridge, 19 Rhys Murphy- Crawley, 26 Padraig Amond- Hartlepool, 28 Liam McAlinden- Exeter, 23 Pat Hoban- Mansfield, 25 Barry Corr- Cambridge, 32 James Collins- Crawley, 26 Rowan Roache- Blackpool, 17 SPL: Adam Rooney- Aberdeen, 28 Conor Sammon- Kilmarnock, 30 Graham Cummins- St.Johnstone, 29 Dean Ebbe- Inverness, 22 Polish Ekstraklasa: Cillian Sheridan- Jagiellonia Bialystok, 28 A-League Andy Keogh- Perth Glory, 30 Roy O'Donovan- Central Coast Mariners, 31 MLS: Kevin Doyle- Colorado Rapids, 33 All in all, with that list of players (plus a few guys in the LOI like Maguire, McMillan, Fagan, and Akinade that may be options) I reckon we have enough depth to get by for 2, or perhaps even 3 years. It would certainly be beneficial to bring a few of the eligible players on board though, and longer term it will become a necessity if our younger talents like McAuley, Hale, Idah etc. don't make the breakthrough. I'd suggest that Bamford, Jutkiewicz, Keane, and Robinson are all realistic targets. I think Hogan and Wickham would be harder to convince. Edited by The O'Shea - 09 Apr 2017 at 12:28am |
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We're decent enough..
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TonyNotJack
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Harry banished to the naughty step? |
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DeclanDaly
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We've never looked better than when playing the diamond with two strikers up top and a playmaker in the hole. In the absence of a primary striker, it gives us to option of playing straight up to a big man to hold up the ball, or play through the middle. After this last round of games, I'm thinking the following for Austria:
Randolph Christie Keogh Clark Ward McCarthy Brady McClean Hoolahan Long Murphy/Walters |
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Terzino
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It would be interesting to see this in operation. 3-5-2 would definitely allow us to play more of a passing game, and you'd hope that having a playmaker and two centre-forwards would give us a greater attacking threat. I think a problem with a 3-5-2 though is that once you're put on the back foot, by the opposition, it can be difficult to get yourself out of it. Your wingbacks are hemmed in and you lose your width. Our tendency to fall back after taking the lead in a game might make a formation like this more of a hinderance than a help. In anyway, for the most part under O'Neill we have hit it long. I can't see him changing things now, although the next couple of friendlies would be a good opportunity to try a 3-5-2. But if we are to continue with the longball, then I think a 4-4-2 makes more sense. Currently we are a bit 4-3-3 and a bit 4-5-1, and I don't think it is working for us. |
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TonyNotJack
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Scotty's thread has recently broken the 1000 replies barrier. A major achievement for someone who's never actually played for us.
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Airtime being the appropriate word, on many levels.
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I'm surprised scott 'hulk' Hogan isn't included on the list considering the amount of f**king airtime he gets on here
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shakeyshamrock
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don't see MON doing it either, but I do think that system would address a lot of the problems the team has - it could, of course, throw up a lot of other ones that I haven't considered!!
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Can't see us playing 3 at the back anytime soon.
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shakeyshamrock
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I suppose I was going for if everyone was available - I chose McClean over Brady for the left wingback slot in the attacking formation as I think you'd get more running out of him. I like your team too - I still might plump for O'Shea ahead of Keogh but really any 3 of our 4 best centre halves would do a decent job. The crucial thing is that it gives us a good attacking trio that will hopefully be close together on the pitch while still keeping the solidity in the middle of the park that we often lack when we push too far forward. I think it could help us to hold on to the ball a bit better too - we'd normally have spare players in positions other teams haven't covered due to the difference in formations..
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djhegzy
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We dont have coleman tho.... and brady? Balanced: GK Clark Duffy Keough Christie Brady McCarthy Arter Hoolohan Long Murphy
probably as good a team we could field in that formation, nowhere for mcClean tho |
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shakeyshamrock
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said it before, but I think a 3-5-2/5-3-2 is the answer with the players we have - we can set that up as a defensive one or a more attacking one.. either way it protects us in midfield and still gives us 2 up front. defensive: GK O'Shea Duffy Clark Coleman Ward McCarthy Whelan Hendrick Walters Murphy (very) attacking: GK Coleman Clark Ward McGeady McClean McCarthy Arter Hoolohan Long Murphy |
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The midfield is a problem generally for us, but at least with a 4-4-2 we can play a more traditional longball game.
There are some remedies to consider. When we don't have the ball Long could drop back into midfield to make a 5. Alternatively, the answer could be to play with 3 in the middle and use only one out-and-out winger. Or we could try and turn McClean into a box-to-box centre-midfielder. I know he's a winger, but he has so much energy and likes a tackle that it would be great if he could be converted to play in there. And I'm not sure about Walters and Long as the combo. This has been the partnership most used so far, Walters on the right but pushes forward and tries to win headers, but I'm not sure it has worked. Walters is not great as a targetman, and neither of them seem to be on eachothers wavelength. Murphy has taken a long time to get going for Ireland, but I think he is a better option as a targetman for Long to work off of. |
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We got bossed in midfield when we play 4-5-1 too! I think there is an argument to be made for Walters and Long up top with the former dropping in to midfield when the opposition have the ball. Let's be honest, if we are starting Hendrick it is essentially 2 in the middle.
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I just added his penalties, I can't be arsed working out how many of his 36 starts were in competitive games!
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MC Hammered
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We get absolutely bossed in midfield when we go 4-4-2
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MC Hammered
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Interesting. Cheers for that.
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