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Originally posted by Missy Missy wrote:

When its mathematical impossible for us to top the group I will then look at rankings.


I can see both sides but two things are for sure.

This game will have a negative effect on our ranking points regardless of result.

It'll be too late to look at rankings if it becomes impossible to top the group.

Rankings are close so it would have been best to give this one a miss. Or to have waited a couple of weeks for three more points before finalising.

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I'd be fairly sure that Rolo has a better understanding of the rankings than anyone in the FAI, certainly he has more of an understanding than MON. A lot of journalists haven't got a clue about rankings either. 
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by Dodgy jumper Dodgy jumper wrote:

Originally posted by rolo rolo wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

f**k sake lads, go and win the game, f**k the rankings 


I dont get this attitude.

Me too but I also don't get it when posters claim to be the only one who knows anything about the ranking system.

And shedite, it's not about winning the game, it's about not playing what might well be a totally unnecessary one (much and all as we can likely never know the answer to that).
But we're football fans. We voluntarily spend our time supporting a football team that plays football matches. What's the point in hoping our team would not play football just so we can see ourselves slightly higher in the world rankings.

We were Pot 1 in Euro 2004 and didn't qualify, we were Pot 3 in Euro 2012 and did qualify.
We were Pot 2 in WC 2006 and didn't qualify, we were Pot 3 in WC 2002 and did qualify.
We were Pot 3 in WC 2010 and WC2014 and didn't qualify, we were Pot 4 in WC2018 and are flying.

It's all luck, World Rankings are nice to see on paper, but I'd much prefer to see my team playing football than avoiding games.
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Might as well make it a bit easier for ourselves. The FAI's job is for the good of Irish football, not to make a quick buck..They are FAIling on a lot of fronts however
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To those of you saying "F**k the rankings", I'd suggest you go and have a look how Wales found themselves in the semi final of Euro 2016. It wasn't by accident.

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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

To those of you saying "F**k the rankings", I'd suggest you go and have a look how Wales found themselves in the semi final of Euro 2016. It wasn't by accident.

I said that so had a look.

They came from Pot 4 in the qualifiers and beat a bunch of teams to qualify.

They were then in Pot 4 in the final draw and beat a bunch of teams to get to the semi final.

Winning matches is far better than avoiding matches.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

To those of you saying "F**k the rankings", I'd suggest you go and have a look how Wales found themselves in the semi final of Euro 2016. It wasn't by accident.

I said that so had a look.

They came from Pot 4 in the qualifiers and beat a bunch of teams to qualify.

They were then in Pot 4 in the final draw and beat a bunch of teams to get to the semi final.

Winning matches is far better than avoiding matches.

Fair point - You are right in this instance.
I should have correctly referenced their seeding for the World Cup Qualifiers and probably referenced Holland more as a better example of what not paying attention to friendlies can do for you.

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Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

To those of you saying "F**k the rankings", I'd suggest you go and have a look how Wales found themselves in the semi final of Euro 2016. It wasn't by accident.

I said that so had a look.

They came from Pot 4 in the qualifiers and beat a bunch of teams to qualify.

They were then in Pot 4 in the final draw and beat a bunch of teams to get to the semi final.

Winning matches is far better than avoiding matches.


Fair point - You are right in this instance.
I should have correctly referenced their seeding for the World Cup Qualifiers and probably referenced Holland more as a better example of what not paying attention to friendlies can do for you.



Yes Wales are No 1 seeds in our group

The group table is upsidedown a bit at the moment

There is a huge element of luck in the draws every time

Bottom line MON is the boss and he will be judged on results. I doubt very much he would agree to any friendly that he felt would jeopardize qualification


So far he's doing a good job
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Originally posted by greenforever greenforever wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by Borussia Borussia wrote:

To those of you saying "F**k the rankings", I'd suggest you go and have a look how Wales found themselves in the semi final of Euro 2016. It wasn't by accident.

I said that so had a look.

They came from Pot 4 in the qualifiers and beat a bunch of teams to qualify.

They were then in Pot 4 in the final draw and beat a bunch of teams to get to the semi final.

Winning matches is far better than avoiding matches.


Fair point - You are right in this instance.
I should have correctly referenced their seeding for the World Cup Qualifiers and probably referenced Holland more as a better example of what not paying attention to friendlies can do for you.



Yes Wales are No 1 seeds in our group

The group table is upsidedown a bit at the moment

There is a huge element of luck in the draws every time


Bottom line MON is the boss and he will be judged on results. I doubt very much he would agree to any friendly that he felt would jeopardize qualification


So far he's doing a good job

But then having a better seeding means you are doing what you can to minimise this so-called luck going against you. 
O'Neill's contract is up until the end of this qualification campaign : He currently doesn't have a contract for when the impact of any seedings would be felt. Somebody has to have an eye on the bigger picture.

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There's no right or wrong answer here, some feel that a friendly in June where we can try new players is a great idea, some feel a friendly in June a few days before more important games is just distracting. I can see both sides of that argument and can agree to disagree.

Seems some people though are using it to have a cheap shot at the FAI saying "they only took it for the money"
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Wonder if this will be on the box. Will be a 1am ko our time on a Friday morning
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Wonder if this will be on the box. Will be a 1am ko our time on a Friday morning


Id say it will be on Eir Sport

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Originally posted by Dodgy jumper Dodgy jumper wrote:

What do the mean tickets only available for box office collection- does it mean at the stadium?

Yeah to prove that you've been to the game and then you'll get a ticket for Cardiff in October.
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Originally posted by darmack darmack wrote:

Originally posted by Dodgy jumper Dodgy jumper wrote:

What do the mean tickets only available for box office collection- does it mean at the stadium?

Yeah to prove that you've been to the game and then you'll get a ticket for Cardiff in October.

Ye planning to harvest myself in this way. No chance they'll check. Just say you missed your flight.
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This will be one for the superfan
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Originally posted by DUBLIN DOC DUBLIN DOC wrote:

This will be one for the superfan
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