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I'm all for making the NL games important so like the sound of this, even if I haven't for a moment considered the ramifications šŸ˜
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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

I'm all for making the NL games important so like the sound of this, even if I haven't for a moment considered the ramifications šŸ˜

Itā€™ll be very difficult for us to qualify if thatā€™s the case
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Originally posted by Pauldaly1984 Pauldaly1984 wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

I'm all for making the NL games important so like the sound of this, even if I haven't for a moment considered the ramifications šŸ˜

Itā€™ll be very difficult for us to qualify if thatā€™s the case
unlike some sports all world cups are hard to qualify for - in UEFA you can pick 10 teams now and at least 8 will qualify leaving the rest to scrap it out. My hope is use the next NL / WC is to see a strategy (bring new players through, change our style a bit) to give us qualification for 2024 and a good shot at the World Cup in 2026. A playoff spot for 2022 would be a good building block along the way.
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Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

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Originally posted by Pauldaly1984 Pauldaly1984 wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

I'm all for making the NL games important so like the sound of this, even if I haven't for a moment considered the ramifications šŸ˜

Itā€™ll be very difficult for us to qualify if thatā€™s the case
Qualifying for a major tournament is supposed to be hard, getting there should be an achievement. UEFA have destroyed their flagship international tournament, possibly deliberately, with this farcical qualifying structure and having 24 teams in the tournament.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Pauldaly1984 Pauldaly1984 wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

I'm all for making the NL games important so like the sound of this, even if I haven't for a moment considered the ramifications šŸ˜

Itā€™ll be very difficult for us to qualify if thatā€™s the case
Qualifying for a major tournament is supposed to be hard, getting there should be an achievement. UEFA have destroyed their flagship international tournament, possibly deliberately, with this farcical qualifying structure and having 24 teams in the tournament.
 
The better you perform in the NL can be rewarded with a home draw in a potential play-off semi. A small carrot, but relevant to our current situation.
 
Thinking back to The Old Offenders time and how little they respected the NL. Fail to prepare, Roy...Fail to prepare.
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Pauldaly1984 Pauldaly1984 wrote:

Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

I'm all for making the NL games important so like the sound of this, even if I haven't for a moment considered the ramifications šŸ˜

Itā€™ll be very difficult for us to qualify if thatā€™s the case
Qualifying for a major tournament is supposed to be hard, getting there should be an achievement. UEFA have destroyed their flagship international tournament, possibly deliberately, with this farcical qualifying structure and having 24 teams in the tournament.
The better you perform in the NL can be rewarded with a home draw in a potential play-off semi. A small carrot, but relevant to our current situation.
We were only 1 Nations League point (plus a bit of goal difference away from having Slovakia at home
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

When you see that, plus 7 goals in 8 games, just confirms how awful we were. Kenny could have transformed the squad and probably bettered those results.
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiersĀ - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.


On the other hand we only lost 3 of 12.

Scotland lost 6 of 14
Iceland lost 7 of 14
Slovakia lost 7 of 12
Hungary lost 6 of 12
Norn Ire lost 7 of 14
Bulgaria lost 5 of 14
Israel lost 7 of 14

I think only Serbia and Norway (2) have less losses than us.
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

When you see that, plus 7 goals in 8 games, just confirms how awful we were. Kenny could have transformed the squad and probably bettered those results.

How would he have transformed the squad? Can you provide examples of players who would have been better served being parachuted straight into this qualifying campaign rather than playing together and developing a winning style and mentality with the 21s? 
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

When you see that, plus 7 goals in 8 games, just confirms how awful we were. Kenny could have transformed the squad and probably bettered those results.

How would he have transformed the squad? Can you provide examples of players who would have been better served being parachuted straight into this qualifying campaign rather than playing together and developing a winning style and mentality with the 21s? 

100% agree.

Was asked by I think it was Balls.ie reporter before the New Zealand game whether Troy Parrott should start against Denmark.

He seemed surprised by firm "No"

And still seemed to be confused with my reply to his follow up question of Why

"He's only 17 and hasn't even played senior football for his club bar 60 something minutes in the League Cup
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

When you see that, plus 7 goals in 8 games, just confirms how awful we were. Kenny could have transformed the squad and probably bettered those results.

How would he have transformed the squad? Can you provide examples of players who would have been better served being parachuted straight into this qualifying campaign rather than playing together and developing a winning style and mentality with the 21s? 
Donā€™t you realise that Kenny has a magic wand that makes our midfield super and turns piss into lemonade?
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

When you see that, plus 7 goals in 8 games, just confirms how awful we were. Kenny could have transformed the squad and probably bettered those results.

How would he have transformed the squad? Can you provide examples of players who would have been better served being parachuted straight into this qualifying campaign rather than playing together and developing a winning style and mentality with the 21s? 
We donā€™t know specifically what players! Because we never give anybody a chance to prove themselves. Why not see how some of the most talented get on. Iā€™m not advocating playing a team of kids. But three or 4 talented players Would have freshened that team up. We would not have done any worse.  Here we are now going into playoffs with same problems weā€™ve had for the last 5 or 6 years. Tell me the benefit of playing the same failures over and over again . The dinosaur fans on here will be looking McCarthy kept on if we do qualify regardless of what the u21ā€™s are doing .  Do you want to watch that rubbish all your days? 
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Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

When you see that, plus 7 goals in 8 games, just confirms how awful we were. Kenny could have transformed the squad and probably bettered those results.

How would he have transformed the squad? Can you provide examples of players who would have been better served being parachuted straight into this qualifying campaign rather than playing together and developing a winning style and mentality with the 21s? 
We donā€™t know specifically what players! Because we never give anybody a chance to prove themselves. Why not see how some of the most talented get on. Iā€™m not advocating playing a team of kids. But three or 4 talented players Would have freshened that team up. We would not have done any worse.  Here we are now going into playoffs with same problems weā€™ve had for the last 5 or 6 years. Tell me the benefit of playing the same failures over and over again . The dinosaur fans on here will be looking McCarthy kept on if we do qualify regardless of what the u21ā€™s are doing .  Do you want to watch that rubbish all your days? 

Fair dues on completly avoiding the question. 

Which 3 or 4 players do you think would have been suited into throwing in to a qualifying campaign with no friendlies beforehand from what had been a massively dysfunctional 21s set up before Kenny took over? What games would you have targeted them getting 'a chance to prove themselves'. 


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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Originally posted by King_Kenny King_Kenny wrote:

Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Amazing to think that we can qualify despite winning 3 matches out of 12 between the NL and 2020 qualifiers - 2 victories against Gibraltar and one against Georgia.

When you see that, plus 7 goals in 8 games, just confirms how awful we were. Kenny could have transformed the squad and probably bettered those results.

How would he have transformed the squad? Can you provide examples of players who would have been better served being parachuted straight into this qualifying campaign rather than playing together and developing a winning style and mentality with the 21s? 
We donā€™t know specifically what players! Because we never give anybody a chance to prove themselves. Why not see how some of the most talented get on. Iā€™m not advocating playing a team of kids. But three or 4 talented players Would have freshened that team up. We would not have done any worse.  Here we are now going into playoffs with same problems weā€™ve had for the last 5 or 6 years. Tell me the benefit of playing the same failures over and over again . The dinosaur fans on here will be looking McCarthy kept on if we do qualify regardless of what the u21ā€™s are doing .  Do you want to watch that rubbish all your days? 

Fair dues on completly avoiding the question. 

Which 3 or 4 players do you think would have been suited into throwing in to a qualifying campaign with no friendlies beforehand from what had been a massively dysfunctional 21s set up before Kenny took over? What games would you have targeted them getting 'a chance to prove themselves'. 
First two games. I donā€™t know what players would have been a success for sure, but Cullen, Parrott and Connolly were starting to make names for themselves . What I do know for sure is that whelan, hendrick and McLean etc would deliver what they have! Nothing. 
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What channel is it on?


https://www.uefa.tv/video/live/135945/ stream here
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