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 Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 5:57pm |
Not making it easy for fans thats for sure.
Have heard of a few lads booking flights to Bratislava already, think I'll be holding off until its finally confirmed what's actually going on
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 6:03pm |
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Not making it easy for fans thats for sure.
Have heard of a few lads booking flights to Bratislava already, think I'll be holding off until its finally confirmed what's actually going on |
Same. I would have booked the flight and then covered the cost by backing Hungary at the bookies, but even that isn't a safe bet.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 6:04pm |
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I wouldn't rule out UEFA doing something out the blue at this stage. Wouldn't be surprised to see the format change and we end up playing someone unexpected. |
Agree.
They'll do their best to ensure hosts and teams with bigger TV audiences etc qualify.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 6:06pm |
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If there are four teams from League B in the playoffs (i.e. if Hungary do not qualify tonight) then there is little doubt UEFA will leave it as it is with us in the League B playoffs, away to either Wales or Slovakia (whoever doesn't make it), playing the winner of Bosnia v Norn Iron.
They won't move us and Romania to the A playoffs. Assuming either Wales or Slovakia qualify, what should happen is the following:
League D: Georgia v Belarus; Macedonia v Kosovo League C: Scotland v [Hungary or Romania or Bulgaria or Israel]; Norway v Serbia League B: Bosnia v Norn Iron; [Wales or Slovakia] v Ireland League A: Iceland v [Hungary or Romania]; [Bulgaria or Israel] v [Israel or Hungary or Romania]
In League C, Scotland, Norway and Serbia have to stay in that path, and cannot face a team from a higher league, because they won their NL group. The fourth team there will likely be by way of a single draw from the four teams. Because either the League A or League C playoffs will have to have two hosts, they should simply draw that at random, with that side being in League C, and the other three sides from the draw being bumped up to the League A playoffs. Once that single draw has been conducted, the only other draws needed are for the four hosts of the playoff finals.
However, if Hungary qualify (either by winning tonight, or by drawing and Slovakia not beating Azerbaijan), then things are a little bit different. I would guess the following would apply:
League D: Georgia v Belarus; Macedonia v Kosovo League C: Scotland v [Bulgaria or Israel]; Norway v Serbia League B: Bosnia v [Wales, Slovakia, Ireland or Norn Iron]; [Wales or Slovakia] v [Slovakia or Ireland] League A: Iceland v Romania; [Wales or Slovakia or Norn Iron] v [Bulgaria or Israel]
Romania would be moved to League A to begin with, in order to keep hosts in separate paths. The first draw required would be in League C: it would be to pick either Bulgaria or Israel to face Scotland, with the other side moving to League A. The second draw would be in League B: it would be to pick Wales, Slovakia or Norn Iron to move to League A.
While UEFA could change these rules, and the rumblings from the FAI seem to indicate that there is a possibility that they might, on the current rules (and with the possibility of complaints from other nations if they do change things around) I would guess that the above is the most likely way things will be run. If there are five League B teams, it could be the case that UEFA will decide to have an open draw from Wales, Slovakia, Ireland and Northern Ireland to move to the League A playoffs, but I think it is unlikely that they would want two hosts in a single playoff path if that could be avoided. The way that is avoided, in that scenario, is by keeping us in the League B path and having Romania in the League A path.
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But if Hungary are in playoffs they have to have 2 in one path?
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 6:19pm |
VanBosch wrote:
SuperDave84 wrote:
If there are four teams from League B in the playoffs (i.e. if Hungary do not qualify tonight) then there is little doubt UEFA will leave it as it is with us in the League B playoffs, away to either Wales or Slovakia (whoever doesn't make it), playing the winner of Bosnia v Norn Iron.
They won't move us and Romania to the A playoffs. Assuming either Wales or Slovakia qualify, what should happen is the following:
League D: Georgia v Belarus; Macedonia v Kosovo League C: Scotland v [Hungary or Romania or Bulgaria or Israel]; Norway v Serbia League B: Bosnia v Norn Iron; [Wales or Slovakia] v Ireland League A: Iceland v [Hungary or Romania]; [Bulgaria or Israel] v [Israel or Hungary or Romania]
In League C, Scotland, Norway and Serbia have to stay in that path, and cannot face a team from a higher league, because they won their NL group. The fourth team there will likely be by way of a single draw from the four teams. Because either the League A or League C playoffs will have to have two hosts, they should simply draw that at random, with that side being in League C, and the other three sides from the draw being bumped up to the League A playoffs. Once that single draw has been conducted, the only other draws needed are for the four hosts of the playoff finals.
However, if Hungary qualify (either by winning tonight, or by drawing and Slovakia not beating Azerbaijan), then things are a little bit different. I would guess the following would apply:
League D: Georgia v Belarus; Macedonia v Kosovo League C: Scotland v [Bulgaria or Israel]; Norway v Serbia League B: Bosnia v [Wales, Slovakia, Ireland or Norn Iron]; [Wales or Slovakia] v [Slovakia or Ireland] League A: Iceland v Romania; [Wales or Slovakia or Norn Iron] v [Bulgaria or Israel]
Romania would be moved to League A to begin with, in order to keep hosts in separate paths. The first draw required would be in League C: it would be to pick either Bulgaria or Israel to face Scotland, with the other side moving to League A. The second draw would be in League B: it would be to pick Wales, Slovakia or Norn Iron to move to League A.
While UEFA could change these rules, and the rumblings from the FAI seem to indicate that there is a possibility that they might, on the current rules (and with the possibility of complaints from other nations if they do change things around) I would guess that the above is the most likely way things will be run. If there are five League B teams, it could be the case that UEFA will decide to have an open draw from Wales, Slovakia, Ireland and Northern Ireland to move to the League A playoffs, but I think it is unlikely that they would want two hosts in a single playoff path if that could be avoided. The way that is avoided, in that scenario, is by keeping us in the League B path and having Romania in the League A path.
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Slovakia would have to fail to beat Azerbaijan at home. Very unlikely.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 6:31pm |
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Sounds like a Wales victory tonight is still the best unless UEFA change things up last minute then
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 6:32pm |
FrankosHereNow wrote:
VanBosch wrote:
SuperDave84 wrote:
If there are four teams from League B in the playoffs (i.e. if Hungary do not qualify tonight) then there is little doubt UEFA will leave it as it is with us in the League B playoffs, away to either Wales or Slovakia (whoever doesn't make it), playing the winner of Bosnia v Norn Iron.
They won't move us and Romania to the A playoffs. Assuming either Wales or Slovakia qualify, what should happen is the following:
League D: Georgia v Belarus; Macedonia v Kosovo League C: Scotland v [Hungary or Romania or Bulgaria or Israel]; Norway v Serbia League B: Bosnia v Norn Iron; [Wales or Slovakia] v Ireland League A: Iceland v [Hungary or Romania]; [Bulgaria or Israel] v [Israel or Hungary or Romania]
In League C, Scotland, Norway and Serbia have to stay in that path, and cannot face a team from a higher league, because they won their NL group. The fourth team there will likely be by way of a single draw from the four teams. Because either the League A or League C playoffs will have to have two hosts, they should simply draw that at random, with that side being in League C, and the other three sides from the draw being bumped up to the League A playoffs. Once that single draw has been conducted, the only other draws needed are for the four hosts of the playoff finals.
However, if Hungary qualify (either by winning tonight, or by drawing and Slovakia not beating Azerbaijan), then things are a little bit different. I would guess the following would apply:
League D: Georgia v Belarus; Macedonia v Kosovo League C: Scotland v [Bulgaria or Israel]; Norway v Serbia League B: Bosnia v [Wales, Slovakia, Ireland or Norn Iron]; [Wales or Slovakia] v [Slovakia or Ireland] League A: Iceland v Romania; [Wales or Slovakia or Norn Iron] v [Bulgaria or Israel]
Romania would be moved to League A to begin with, in order to keep hosts in separate paths. The first draw required would be in League C: it would be to pick either Bulgaria or Israel to face Scotland, with the other side moving to League A. The second draw would be in League B: it would be to pick Wales, Slovakia or Norn Iron to move to League A.
While UEFA could change these rules, and the rumblings from the FAI seem to indicate that there is a possibility that they might, on the current rules (and with the possibility of complaints from other nations if they do change things around) I would guess that the above is the most likely way things will be run. If there are five League B teams, it could be the case that UEFA will decide to have an open draw from Wales, Slovakia, Ireland and Northern Ireland to move to the League A playoffs, but I think it is unlikely that they would want two hosts in a single playoff path if that could be avoided. The way that is avoided, in that scenario, is by keeping us in the League B path and having Romania in the League A path.
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Slovakia would have to fail to beat Azerbaijan at home. Very unlikely. |
Not necessarily, if Hungary lose they are in playoffs with Slovakia. That would leavev4 hosts in A,B & C
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:21pm |
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Virgin media sports went through the playoff a few minutes ago at the start of coverage for the wales game and ended it by saying all this comes with a health warning as uefa can change it all before Friday.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:29pm |
Imagine UEFA decided at the last minute that all hosts qualify automatically as they fear Scotland, Hungary,Romania, Azerbaijan and ourselves not being there
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:39pm |
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:41pm |
lassassinblanc wrote:
Imagine UEFA decided at the last minute that all hosts qualify automatically as they fear Scotland, Hungary,Romania, Azerbaijan and ourselves not being there
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It wouldn’t even surprise me. The game is in good hands.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:43pm |
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Wales fans absolutely superb vocally compared to us
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:44pm |
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Pity they're all ****s.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 7:59pm |
Maccatacca wrote:
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Wales fans absolutely superb vocally compared to us |
Pity they're all ****s. |
At least we have that in common!
It really is a cracking jersey.
Gareth Bale is a prick.
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 8:02pm |
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1-0 Wales
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 8:11pm |
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As are the Slovaks
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 8:14pm |
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Just need UEFA to invent a way for us in now
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Posted: 19 Nov 2019 at 8:25pm |
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