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Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Let's be straight about his contributions.

3 goals vs Qatar (friendly)
1 goal vs New Zealand (friendly)
1 goal vs Malta (friendly and had it gifted to him)
1 good assist vs Serbia
2 goals vs Azerbaijan
1 goal vs Luxembourg (when the game was already over).

Use as many stats as you like, but those are the facts. He's crap and even worse when it's him and Ogbene together having a competition on who can make the most terrible decisions in 90 minutes.

If it's that easy, then why isn't every player doing it?

These are the actual facts -
His record in the Championship and for Ireland are very good (goal or assist every 162 and 206 minutes respectively).
Even his EPL record is respectable (goal or assist every 285 minutes).

Can you explain how it would be possible for a "crap player" who "constantly makes the wrong decision" to actually be making the right decisions that regularly at the highest level? I suspect you can't, because it's just nonsensical.

For years we've had strikers who were good in many ways but completely deficient at getting the ball into the net - now we have Robinson who is clearly quite good at either doing it himself or creating the chance for others to - yet you still can't appreciate what's right in front of you.


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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Can't have Robinson as a footballer at all. A total nothing player who adds zero to our team. 

What you talking about? He’s quick, a good dribbler, good control, a creative passer and a decent finisher off either foot.
 LOL But he has 5 goal involvements!
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4 goals in 20 games this season for a poor side whose manager got sacked, not long after criticising the attitude of players like Robinson. WBA go from relegation candidates to a team chasing promotion after removing dreck like Robinson from the side. A grand total of 6 goals across 44 games in two abortive spells in the Premier League. 7 goals in 43 games last season. Has only scored against minnows for Ireland and has produced consistently mediocre performances.

Would you honestly expect this much stubbornness and facile ignorance of the facts, along with constant manipulations of stats, from one or two people if it was said that we should be looking past players like Andy Keogh?

Because that's the equivalent to the player Robinson is in terms of impact internationally and at PL level; a Championship journeyman. At least Keogh scored against a half decent German side.


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Scores vs Birmingham, helps them out of the relegation zone.
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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Scores vs Birmingham, helps them out of the relegation zone.

Going well this season despite Cardiff struggles, 11th goal involvement!
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Scores vs Birmingham, helps them out of the relegation zone.

Going well this season despite Cardiff struggles, 11th goal involvement!

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Out of the France game with a hamstring tear - he's our  most in form striker in the Championship by a distance so not a great one to lose.
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Robinson out, Parrot not doing much, Idah not doing much, Obafemi not doing much, Connolly out and Ferguson declaring for England. Not looking good. Hope Hogan is in form against Varane, Upamecano and the lads. 
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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Robinson out, Parrot not doing much, Idah not doing much, Obafemi not doing much, Connolly out and Ferguson declaring for England. Not looking good. Hope Hogan is in form against Varane, Upamecano and the lads. 
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Big loss for us. Hopefully Connolly gets back in action before it. Having himself, obafemi, Ferguson and idah fit and playing would be good. 
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Varane retired from France duty, it’s grand lads. Hogan & Sammon have got this.
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Could be a blessing, his performances for us over the past while have been brutal! Hoping to see Ferguson and Obafemi start together.
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Surely Robbie’s performances in SoccerAid merit a call up if Evan falls for the Southgate charm, and the rest of our strikers are injured or on the bench.

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Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Big loss for us. Hopefully Connolly gets back in action before it. Having himself, obafemi, Ferguson and idah fit and playing would be good. 

Ferguson is really the only striker fully fit and in form now.

Keane, Hogan and Ogbene have been off the boil recently. 
Parrott and Idah are just back from long term injuries.
Obafemi is short on gametime.
Connolly will only just be back from injury in the best case scenario.
Cannon and Armstrong are too young and yet to score in the Championship.

It's not ideal to have this much pressure on one very inexperienced player against a top side.
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The Hogan Keane little and large partnership would strike fear into any side!

We got this

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"Here's Robbie Keane...... yeeeessss! That is no more than Ireland deserve!"
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He's a miss, even as a a bench option, given that he has been of the few strikers to produce consistently this season (goal involvement every game and a half for Cardiff or thereabouts). Given the generally poor form of most of our striking options, he has to have been in the reckoning for a starting spot along side Ferguson for the French game.
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Robinson will be a loss, he's actually scored a few for us. He's just one of those players who can't be consistent at club or international level 
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Originally posted by Badgersboys9 Badgersboys9 wrote:

Robinson out, Parrot not doing much, Idah not doing much, Obafemi not doing much, Connolly out and Ferguson declaring for England. Not looking good. Hope Hogan is in form against Varane, Upamecano and the lads. 

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