Austria v Ireland Match Thread

The chap is a WUM, pure and simple. I don't mind WUM's if they're funny, but this chap isn't. Ignore him and he'll stop. I stopped responding to his posts a couple of years ago. I usually ignore his posts but I've read a few on this thread. It's just laughable.

As usual, when you've lost the ball, you start playing the man. I'll continue to play the ball thanks. And how have I lost the argument here?


Last campaign:

Georgia away: Shambles for 89 minutes.
Germany away: Shambles for 93 minutes.
Scotland away: Shambles. Lost.
Poland home: Shambles for 89 minutes.
Scotland home: Shambles.
Georgia home: Shambles for 70 minutes.
Poland away: Shambles. Lost. Red card.
Sweden neutral: Shambles when in front.
Belgium neutral: Disgrace.
Italy neutral: Titanic struggle to beat a B Team.
France away: Shambles after half time. Lost. Red card.

This campaign:

Serbia away: One pass per minute Shambles.
Georgia home: Shambles until half time.

He isn't called Trap with a Derry accent for nothing.[/QUOTE]

pre Madonna wrote: OnTheOneRoad wrote: We had a serious team back around '02, easily on a par with, for arguments sake, the Croatia of today. Lots of very decent lads playing up near the business end of the biggest leagues in the world and a sprinkling of genuine world class talent. We have nothing like that today. I would back our lads today with the belief they have to go out and take points off anyone on their day, but in a hypothetical 2 legged playoff between Ireland 2002 and Ireland 2016, the '02 lads would be very heavy favourites. What this team is accomplishing given its limitations is an extremely impressive achievement. Let's not get carried away here, our only world class player in 02 was walking his dog.

In fairness,he's right, in 02 we had Given, Kelly, Harte who'd played Champions League over the previous few seasons and Robbie Keane who played a couple of games in it for Inter which cup tied him for the Leeds semi final run. We had Duff and Finnan who'd go on to play in it the next few seasons. We had Staunton and Quinn who'd won leagues and other trophies in England and been part of Jack's team. And a couple of others, like McAfee and Holland who had European experience in other competitions. No comparison with today's team or Trap's squads for that matter. Both O'Neill and Trap did well with that was at their disposal. MON has the edge now due to the wins v Germany, Bosnia, Italy and Austria which are better than any competitive results Trap was able to achieve. I'd argue O'Neill has had better luck (3rd place finish in qualifying and in finals being enough, facing an Italy team with nothing to play for, not having the likes of a Henry handball to deal with etc) but we're on an upward curve at the moment whereas with Trap our best campaign was actually the first one despite qualifying in our second.

FrankosHereNow wrote: The chap is a WUM, pure and simple. I don't mind WUM's if they're funny, but this chap isn't. Ignore him and he'll stop. I stopped responding to his posts a couple of years ago. I usually ignore his posts but I've read a few on this thread. It's just laughable. EG, he says above we were a shambles away to Germany (we drew). Ireland lost 6 f**king 1 at home to Germany under Trap. Shambles against Sweden (we drew), we lost 2-1 at home to Sweden under Trap. Italy win 1-0, lost 2-0 under Trap etc etc etc.

I tried to get him banned earlier this year but I was ridiculed from all angles.

Was reading through the Austrian forums there earlier in the week, getting a bit of practising of the German in. Unsurprisingly Wimmer being absolutely ripped to shreds and its a bit like on here after a bad result where everyone is picking the player they like least and laying into him. Interestingly though, apparently Marcel Koller didn't know Ward and McCarthy wouldn't travel until he was told at the pre-match press conference and he's (rightly) copping a lot of flak for that. Seems to be a fairly glaring lack of attention to detail from a national team manager. They seem to reckon that if he stays in charge he is only going to blindly play the same way and they'll get picked off time and again. Certainly if they come out the same way in Dublin it'll be the same story

Edited by OnTheOneRoad - 18 Nov 2016 at 6:54pm

Drumcondra 69er wrote: pre Madonna wrote: OnTheOneRoad wrote: We had a serious team back around '02, easily on a par with, for arguments sake, the Croatia of today. Lots of very decent lads playing up near the business end of the biggest leagues in the world and a sprinkling of genuine world class talent. We have nothing like that today. I would back our lads today with the belief they have to go out and take points off anyone on their day, but in a hypothetical 2 legged playoff between Ireland 2002 and Ireland 2016, the '02 lads would be very heavy favourites. What this team is accomplishing given its limitations is an extremely impressive achievement. Let's not get carried away here, our only world class player in 02 was walking his dog. In fairness,he's right, in 02 we had Given, Kelly, Harte who'd played Champions League over the previous few seasons and Robbie Keane who played a couple of games in it for Inter which cup tied him for the Leeds semi final run. We had Duff and Finnan who'd go on to play in it the next few seasons. We had Staunton and Quinn who'd won leagues and other trophies in England and been part of Jack's team. And a couple of others, like McAfee and Holland who had European experience in other competitions. No comparison with today's team or Trap's squads for that matter. Both O'Neill and Trap did well with that was at their disposal. MON has the edge now due to the wins v Germany, Bosnia, Italy and Austria which are better than any competitive results Trap was able to achieve. I'd argue O'Neill has had better luck (3rd place finish in qualifying and in finals being enough, facing an Italy team with nothing to play for, not having the likes of a Henry handball to deal with etc) but we're on an upward curve at the moment whereas with Trap our best campaign was actually the first one despite qualifying in our second.

OnTheOneRoad wrote: pre Madonna wrote: Drumcondra 69er wrote: pre Madonna wrote: OnTheOneRoad wrote: We had a serious team back around '02, easily on a par with, for arguments sake, the Croatia of today. Lots of very decent lads playing up near the business end of the biggest leagues in the world and a sprinkling of genuine world class talent. We have nothing like that today. I would back our lads today with the belief they have to go out and take points off anyone on their day, but in a hypothetical 2 legged playoff between Ireland 2002 and Ireland 2016, the '02 lads would be very heavy favourites. What this team is accomplishing given its limitations is an extremely impressive achievement. Let's not get carried away here, our only world class player in 02 was walking his dog. In fairness,he's right, in 02 we had Given, Kelly, Harte who'd played Champions League over the previous few seasons and Robbie Keane who played a couple of games in it for Inter which cup tied him for the Leeds semi final run. We had Duff and Finnan who'd go on to play in it the next few seasons. We had Staunton and Quinn who'd won leagues and other trophies in England and been part of Jack's team. And a couple of others, like McAfee and Holland who had European experience in other competitions. No comparison with today's team or Trap's squads for that matter. Both O'Neill and Trap did well with that was at their disposal. MON has the edge now due to the wins v Germany, Bosnia, Italy and Austria which are better than any competitive results Trap was able to achieve. I'd argue O'Neill has had better luck (3rd place finish in qualifying and in finals being enough, facing an Italy team with nothing to play for, not having the likes of a Henry handball to deal with etc) but we're on an upward curve at the moment whereas with Trap our best campaign was actually the first one despite qualifying in our second. He is and he isn't. We had a better team then , no questions, but we have had a handful of world class players in our history, to suggest that any team we have ever put out has had a 'sprinkling of genuine world class talent' is madness. I'm being a bit liberal with my definition of world class but we had Duff and Keane who were two of the most highly rated young players in Europe at that time, and (obviously not at the World Cup but for the extremely tough qualifying campaign that got us there) Roy Keane, one of the best players of his era. A good few very high quality players on top of that as well. In fairness, international football was better back then and it seemed almost every half decent side had one top class player playing for a Barcelona or a Real Madrid.

Is there anywhere you can view a full re run of the match?

bogball88 wrote: Is there anywhere you can view a full re run of the match?

RTE player. If youre blocked from viewing it in the black North, download an app called hola that will get you around that issue