Declan Rice

Strazdas wrote: grannyrule wrote: Maccatacca wrote: It’s quite sickening that teams like Wales and Scotland - which aren’t even fully fledged countries can convince dual eligible plays like David Brooks and Scott McTominay to play for them. While we can’t even keep lads who have played for us three times.  I agree, there is something wrong somewhere. When MON & Roy first came on board I thought they would have no problem convincing players to join us. Now they can't even keep who we have already. A bit harsh on them I feel. They were actually playing the guy at senior level.....you'd have to blame Rice primarily if he jumps ship.

You could look at it both ways. You could be the main man for Ireland, a country that you've previously said there is no decision to be made and you are 100% committed to, for the next 12 years, or you could go and become one of 12 players competing for the same position in the England squad.

Edited by Roberto Baggio - 27 Aug 2018 at 1:41pm

https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2018/0827/987836-kilbane-believes-rice-should-not-play-for-ireland-again/Not very helpful these comments from Kilbane at the minute TBH

BucksburnDandy wrote: I think the difference with us and McTominay was that he always felt Scottish. He didn't even talk to Gareth Southgate or England which was positive. 100% committed to Scotland which obviously I'm delighted with. As for Declan Rice, he's a bit of a weasel for doing that to you guys. No surprise though, England are becoming quite aggressive with dual national players.

Can't believe this situation has been allowed happen again. It's embarrassing.

MC Hammered wrote: Sad times. You can't blame MON for this. The lad has been included and has been capped. He has been courted by England and has now decided that there is a decision to be made. I can't see him coming back to us unfortunately. I think he will regret it. England had a one good Summer out of the last 22.

ShamtheRam wrote: Can't believe this situation has been allowed happen again. It's embarrassing. There's one common factor between both situations in the shape of Martin O'Neill and one can only wonder if either Grealish or Rice felt any passion to play for him and in his system.

I'd say the abuse he's getting will make this decision very easy for him anyway 

He could play 100 times for Ireland and never play in world cup or euro's , he could play 4-5 years for England at his peak, get 30 caps but play in a few major championships. Squad is poorest I've ever seen, no out and out goal poacher, no creativity in nidfield, f*cked if anything happens Randolph and apart from Coleman, Duffy, Doherty, Hendrick and Ward....maybe Arter and Clark, not many who are going to start 20+ games in premier league this season. O'Dowda isn't first choice at Bristol City, Horgan couldn't get game at Preston last year, Meyler is a 6/10 midfielder in poor Reading side. For Rice, its a question does he want to slog it out for Ireland for sake of his family loyalties or does he want to challenge himself for a more competitive national team with better set up, better prospects even if it means a shorter international career.

Edited by PaddyDaCulchie - 27 Aug 2018 at 2:07pm