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is this becoming like connor salmon thread, I thought someone had pleaded for this to stop.....
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seriously i have mentioned the fact we should of capped him against Moldova...but i got told to calm down ect..we have to realise this is a different game now..his head will be turned by his agent and people around..this will really test him..should of got this guy tied down before  as we should of with Grealish..dont get me wrong i believe Rice will want to still play for us..but jaysus it shouldn't have come to this..if Rice does choose England the moral of supporters will be at an all time low
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is this becoming like connor salmon thread, I thought someone had pleaded for this to stop.....
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seriously i have mentioned the fact we should of capped him against Moldova...but i got told to calm down ect..we have to realise this is a different game now..his head will be turned by his agent and people around..this will really test him..should of got this guy tied down before  as we should of with Grealish..dont get me wrong i believe Rice will want to still play for us..but jaysus it shouldn't have come to this..if Rice does choose England the moral of supporters will be at an all time low

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is this becoming like connor salmon thread, I thought someone had pleaded for this to stop.....
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We should be dishing out 15 minute cameos to any half decent young player born in the UK against bottom seeds in our groups as a matter of urgency. We need to get smart here given the lack of real talent coming through. We cannot afford to be losing the likes of Grealish, Rice etc. 

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We should be dishing out 15 minute cameos to any half decent young player born in the UK against bottom seeds in our groups as a matter of urgency. We need to get smart here given the lack of real talent coming through. We cannot afford to be losing the likes of Grealish, Rice etc. 

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Originally posted by d13dave d13dave wrote:

We should be dishing out 15 minute cameos to any half decent young player born in the UK against bottom seeds in our groups as a matter of urgency. We need to get smart here given the lack of real talent coming through. We cannot afford to be losing the likes of Grealish, Rice etc. 

Fingers crossed he stays but i fear the worst 


 


Give me 11 home grown players over any of those 'wait until I can't get capped by England' type players any day of the week.

Surely it would be more of an incentive to play LOI players then these 25+ year old journeymen players.

Absolutely scraping the barrel.

I've no issue with a player born outside of Ireland whose fully committed and comes on board.

It's like starting outside the jax in some cesspit nightclub at 2:45am waiting on some large portion to come out and getting stuck in, and justifying it by saying 'any holes a goal.



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Young premiership regular whose only link to Ireland is his Grandparents. Honestly not sure this will have a happy ending. Does it really matter he played with us under age if England are sniffing? 
 
Loads of knees up brown singing Essex mutants at the taxpayers arena in his ear every week along with no doubt a greedy jumped up agent could well sway him back to England.

No idea what the kid is like as a person or how Irish he feels. Time will tell
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Originally posted by d13dave d13dave wrote:

We should be dishing out 15 minute cameos to any half decent young player born in the UK against bottom seeds in our groups as a matter of urgency. We need to get smart here given the lack of real talent coming through. We cannot afford to be losing the likes of Grealish, Rice etc. 

Look at Wales with Ampadu, Woodburn and Wilson for example. Bring them in early, cap them and secure them for the future. Any international setup containing people with half a brain would be doing this anyway.




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Young premiership regular whose only link to Ireland is his Grandparents. Honestly not sure this will have a happy ending. Does it really matter he played with us under age if England are sniffing? 
 
Loads of knees up brown singing Essex mutants at the taxpayers arena in his ear every week along with no doubt a greedy jumped up agent could well sway him back to England.

No idea what the kid is like as a person or how Irish he feels. Time will tell






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His grandparents are from Cork but not sure about either of his parents.
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

I have to say, I can't see Rice's head being turned here. It might seem trivial to some, but the fact that he has gone to the trouble of learning the national anthem I think is a big indicator of where his allegiance lies. Also, he comes across as a wise head for his age. I think he (and hopefully his advisors) will have analysed the nose dive a certain Mr J Grelish career has taken over the last 18 months.
Obviously I'm no fan of what JG did but in his defence the lad is playing tremendous football at the moment. If Villa go up then he'll be hoping he catches Southgate's eye with 2020 on the horizon. The lad is incredibly gifted. To say I'm gutted he switched allegiance is an understatement.
 
 
Like many others on this forum,  my fear for Rice regards his agent, and any others who may try turn his head for the perceived greater riches of playing for England.     

Players like Grealish are two a penny at the highest level though, his start in the PL was similar to McClean who soon got sussed out and had to adapt his game. 

Grealish has a lot of technical ability for sure, but his all round game for me anyway will be never good enough to be a mainstay in the England squad.
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Think his dad is Irish born but moved to England at a very young age. I dont think we've anything to worry about here, hes a intelligent lad and comes across well in any interviews ive seen like below. Seems very committed, not many would go as far to learn the national anthem!
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Rice is staying with us according to the Indo. Rest easy.

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I think it should also be noted before people start panicking and flinging their sh*te around when Rice is not named in the upcoming squad, that young Declan is currently injured.
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Originally posted by ShamtheRam ShamtheRam wrote:

I think it should also be noted before people start panicking and flinging their sh*te around when Rice is not named in the upcoming squad, that young Declan is currently injured.

"Although a calf strain kept Rice out of Saturday's FA Cup defeat to Wigan Athletic, he should return for tonight's Premier League meeting with Crystal Palace, hoping to make his 20th appearance of the season."
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