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Originally posted by Cathal Sheehan Cathal Sheehan wrote:

Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

MON really needs to leave.

Fixed, but lads like Rice need to be brought into the fold to atlas get comfortable with the senior set up.

He's been in squads already.
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Originally posted by AbuAbu AbuAbu wrote:

MON really needs to leave.

Fixed, but lads like Rice need to be brought into the fold to atlas get comfortable with the senior set up.
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I think everyone got caught up in our group position after Vienna, which made it seem like we were performing better than we did. Tbf in Vienna, Walters hit the bar but they missed a sitter in the 95th minute which often gets overlooked.

EDIT - More suited to the MON thread.


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MON really needs to completely re think his whole approach. Lots of rubbish written about how we had a strong first half of the group. We were rubbish in Serbia but got a great point, rubbish against Georgia and fluked a win, were ok against Austria and still got lucky to hang on. 

Weighing up everything we were rubbish for the whole group and nearly got lucky but got found out in the end.

New players, new style please. Try some young lads. Be pragmatic but only with re building in mind.
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

The free role is hardly McClean's natural position. Its the left wing or nowhere for him (IMO) despite constant calls on this website to try him up front, in a playmaker role, or at left back.
 
 

You are 100% correct RB, and anyone who can't see that at this stage must have voted for him as Sportsman of the year. There is a decent argument to be made that if we are to play football in any shape or form, he shouldn't be in the starting team at all. 

Back 5 is all well & good in theory, but if yer width is then provided by your wingbacks (go with Coleman & Brady as suggested), there isn't any place for another winger in the team, so no McClean or O'Dowda. Instead, we replace one or both of those with any amount of average midfielders. 

Something along the lines of McCarthy, Hendrick & Arter would be the likliest candidates, but all the lads picking the fantasy teams will replace one of them for either a fella who will be 36 in May and has appeared in about 1/3rd of Norwich's games this year, or a chap who hasn't played a game for us yet and has spent a good deal of this season on the bench at struggling Reading. That's where the theory starts to fall down a bit. 

With that system, you do get to play 2 up front, but as things stand, we barely have 2 strikers worthy of the name. Long and one of Maguire or Hogan maybe. It couldn't be much worse than what we have seen over the last year to be fair, but we sorely lack a creative midfielder in that system, I think it would be more of the same or similar. 

 Maybe Judge can be the next Wes, a fella who gets a late international chance and goes on to have a decent career for us, but I think Kelly has a bit to go yet, and I would cull Wes along with Murph, O'Shea, McGeady & Whelan, possibly Walters as well, but he would not be a bad lad to have on the bench for a while either. Lads thinking Hoolahan can go on for much longer are in dreamland, probably the same one that McClean appears in as a striker/playmaker/goalkeeper.





 


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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by JAVIER JAVIER wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by JAVIER JAVIER wrote:

we have to  stop playing players  over 30 years old


WHAT. would   MESSI say   about that


I SAID  bar  Hoolahan and Walters.....Marc Wilson maybe Gibson.....Messi  i think he will quit the national team after the world cup


Okay, No players over 30 except the ones who are good enough 👍
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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by JAVIER JAVIER wrote:

we have to  stop playing players  over 30 years old


WHAT. would   MESSI say   about that


I SAID  bar  Hoolahan and Walters.....Marc Wilson maybe Gibson.....Messi  i think he will quit the national team after the world cup


Okay, No players over 30 except the ones who are good enough 👍

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by JAVIER JAVIER wrote:

we have to  stop playing players  over 30 years old


WHAT. would   MESSI say   about that


I SAID  bar  Hoolahan and Walters.....Marc Wilson maybe Gibson.....Messi  i think he will quit the national team after the world cup
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Originally posted by mully_85 mully_85 wrote:

Originally posted by CillDara CillDara wrote:

A back 5 of Brady, Rice, Duffy, Clarke, Coleman would make a lot of sense, would like to see it tried over the next 18 months.

jesus. what in under fuk?? how many senior games has Rice played at left back?? or at any level for that matter. wtf is up with some people on this board and all these creative ideas... too much Football Manager i doubt lol


Eh, he means leftmost of a central back three, with Brady as left wing back and Coleman as right wing back.
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Originally posted by CillDara CillDara wrote:

A back 5 of Brady, Rice, Duffy, Clarke, Coleman would make a lot of sense, would like to see it tried over the next 18 months.

jesus. what in under fuk?? how many senior games has Rice played at left back?? or at any level for that matter. wtf is up with some people on this board and all these creative ideas... too much Football Manager i doubt lol
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Originally posted by Adobolo Adobolo wrote:

I had an argument with many people on this forum months ago that Rice was ready for a call up and was able to deal with the pressure of international football if he could get In a relegation threatened premier league side, my argument was comparing him to Kevin long. Long had played a handful of games for Burnley and was called up and because of injuries he was give a competitive cap against wales, rice has now got more premier league experience than long, 12 premier league games for Rice to 9 for long and if he does not get a call up in the forthcoming friendlys questions need to be asked.
Imagine if we had a forward thinking manager who might try three at the back, Clark Duffy rice with Coleman and Brady as attacking fullbacks, a centre midfielde of McCarthy Arthur and hendrick with McLean in free role and long as lone striker, 10 premier league players playing well and all in natural positions!!

mcclean in a free role?? ConfusedConfusedConfused

is mcclean not a winger and a winger only
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Originally posted by CillDara CillDara wrote:

A back 5 of Brady, Rice, Duffy, Clarke, Coleman would make a lot of sense, would like to see it tried over the next 18 months.


One of the better suggestions made on this forum, would love to see it tried
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Originally posted by Adobolo Adobolo wrote:

They are our 5 best players (people may argue over rice but he will be our best) and as you say need to be tried out in a back 5, my only fear would be a lack of pace from any of the 3 centre backs.

He's 18, and it's his first season. A bit of perspective is needed here.
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They are our 5 best players (people may argue over rice but he will be our best) and as you say need to be tried out in a back 5, my only fear would be a lack of pace from any of the 3 centre backs.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CillDara Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2018 at 5:53pm
A back 5 of Brady, Rice, Duffy, Clarke, Coleman would make a lot of sense, would like to see it tried over the next 18 months.
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bar hoolahan and maybe Walters ...the rest   long kiss goodbye
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