Declan Rice

I reckon apart from the agent,, the club is putting pressure on him. For West Ham to have an top England star would be a marketing dream for them. Very hard one for Rice to work under when his employers are asking him to switch to England. 

The O'Shea wrote: scottyccfc wrote: The O'Shea wrote: scottyccfc wrote: I said this after Grealish and got hammered but I still believe it. Under 21 squads should only be domestic based players (From any national background with Irish qualification) and Irish born players abroad. If an English born Irish man playing abroad wants to play for Ireland they can wait until the seniors come calling. So we deny guys the chance to play for the country that they may well identify as their own simply because they're eligible for another? I'm sure that wouldn't be in the slightest alienating... Taking your point to it's logical conclusion, we'd also have to exclude Irish-born players like Bazunu simply because they're eligible for another nations too... Its an absolutely idiotic suggestion which would do more harm than good, and you were rightly hammered for suggesting something that is so blatently discriminatory. Bazuna plays for Shamrock Rovers. He is eligible. If he is good enough at 17 for Man City next year cap him. No problem. Im talking about under 21s and below.  He's also eligible for another nation, which is exactly the same problem as your ludicrous "Rice/Grealish rule" seeks to address.

Edited by scottyccfc - 31 Aug 2018 at 9:10am

LO SCIENZIATO wrote: Howdo wrote: Good rant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KmLMh6K2gY i turned it off when i saw the **** was wearing a scarf indoors...........

Good rant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KmLMh6K2gY



Edited by Howdo - 31 Aug 2018 at 8:22am

The O'Shea wrote: scottyccfc wrote: The O'Shea wrote: scottyccfc wrote: I said this after Grealish and got hammered but I still believe it. Under 21 squads should only be domestic based players (From any national background with Irish qualification) and Irish born players abroad. If an English born Irish man playing abroad wants to play for Ireland they can wait until the seniors come calling. So we deny guys the chance to play for the country that they may well identify as their own simply because they're eligible for another? I'm sure that wouldn't be in the slightest alienating... Taking your point to it's logical conclusion, we'd also have to exclude Irish-born players like Bazunu simply because they're eligible for another nations too... Its an absolutely idiotic suggestion which would do more harm than good, and you were rightly hammered for suggesting something that is so blatently discriminatory. Bazuna plays for Shamrock Rovers. He is eligible. If he is good enough at 17 for Man City next year cap him. No problem. Im talking about under 21s and below.  He's also eligible for another nation, which is exactly the same problem as your ludicrous "Rice/Grealish rule" seeks to address.

The O'Shea wrote: scottyccfc wrote: I said this after Grealish and got hammered but I still believe it. Under 21 squads should only be domestic based players (From any national background with Irish qualification) and Irish born players abroad. If an English born Irish man playing abroad wants to play for Ireland they can wait until the seniors come calling. So we deny guys the chance to play for the country that they may well identify as their own simply because they're eligible for another? I'm sure that wouldn't be in the slightest alienating... Taking your point to it's logical conclusion, we'd also have to exclude Irish-born players like Bazunu simply because they're eligible for another nations too... Its an absolutely idiotic suggestion which would do more harm than good, and you were rightly hammered for suggesting something that is so blatently discriminatory.

I turned him into a Scot which is all we need.

Trigboy 10 wrote: TonyNotJack wrote: Kevin Kilbane names what he thinks are the English born players who would have always played for Ireland and never considered England : Himself Gary Breen Alan Mclaughlin David Connolly Rory Delap I found Delap the most surprising. its McLoughlin

TonyNotJack wrote: Kevin Kilbane names what he thinks are the English born players who would have always played for Ireland and never considered England : Himself Gary Breen Alan Mclaughlin David Connolly Rory Delap I found Delap the most surprising.

So basically ones that would never have had a hope in hell of playing for England (probably not even top half Premiership) ......I've always felt young English players with ambition to go right to the top would never choose Ireland if the opportunity was there.......look at all the recent England Internationals who could have played for us, there are scores of them...it was never on

even the likes of Patrick Bamford switched back pretty much when he got a move from Forest to Chelsea......it's just the way it is