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Originally posted by Fozz Fozz wrote:

Rosenior said along the lines that they need a player who can come in and hit the ground running and tolerate the physical demands of the Championship.
I don't see any references to his "
his mysterious lack of availability (that) wasn't on them or their medical team" but please do post a link to that.

Connolly has far too many injuries and if that clears up, he can get back into the Ireland fold after a consistent run of form for a decent level club.
But there's little evidence to suggest this will happen.

His injury record really isnt that bad prior to last season. He managed to play 20 games in his 6 month loan at Boro prior to that - he was out of favour at Brighton in the opening half of that season, but played 4 times. Previous season he played 17 times for Brighton, mainly due to not being favoured rather than injury, season before that he played 27 times for Brighton (24 in the PL). 

Agree that he needs to find a consistent run of form at a decent level, but let's be honest here, so do Idah, Obafemi and Parrott. There's as much evidence that he can as there is that any of the others can. Bar Obafemi's 6 month spell at Swansea, none of them have really produced and Connolly has done more at the highest level than any of them.
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What has Connolly done "at the highest level"? Is that a reference to his couple of goals for Brighton? When a player fails at multiple clubs in straight succession, whether it is Connolly or Parrott...walks like a duck, its a duck. 
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

What has Connolly done "at the highest level"? Is that a reference to his couple of goals for Brighton? When a player fails at multiple clubs in straight succession, whether it is Connolly or Parrott...walks like a duck, its a duck. 

Well he's played 45 times in the Premier League and scored 5 goals. PL debut 19/20 season.

Idah 29 PL apps - 1 goal - PL debut 19/20.

Obafemi - 32 PL apps - 4 goals - PL debut 17/18

Parrott - 2 PL apps - 0 goals - PL debut 19/20

In total AC has scored 12 in 85 senior games - TP 16 in 114 (10 of which were in League One) - Idah 10 in 81 - Obafemi 22 in 105.

As I said previously, asides from Obafemi's "purple patch" 12 in 32 in the Ch'ship in 21/22 (most coming in the 6 months after Christmas), none of these lads have produced and Connolly has played more PL games and scored more PL goals than the others.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

What has Connolly done "at the highest level"? Is that a reference to his couple of goals for Brighton? When a player fails at multiple clubs in straight succession, whether it is Connolly or Parrott...walks like a duck, its a duck. 

Well he's played 45 times in the Premier League and scored 5 goals. PL debut 19/20 season.

Idah 29 PL apps - 1 goal - PL debut 19/20.

Obafemi - 32 PL apps - 4 goals - PL debut 17/18

Parrott - 2 PL apps - 0 goals - PL debut 19/20

In total AC has scored 12 in 85 senior games - TP 16 in 114 (10 of which were in League One) - Idah 10 in 81 - Obafemi 22 in 105.

As I said previously, asides from Obafemi's "purple patch" 12 in 32 in the Ch'ship in 21/22 (most coming in the 6 months after Christmas), none of these lads have produced and Connolly has played more PL games and scored more PL goals than the others.
Our interest is what they have done, or could do, for Ireland, Parrott has a few goals, Obafemi one, nothing to write home about, but Connolly, nothing obviously...was the expression flogging a dead horse ever more applicable? There does seem to something more going on with the lad than can be explained away by injuries?
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Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

What has Connolly done "at the highest level"? Is that a reference to his couple of goals for Brighton? When a player fails at multiple clubs in straight succession, whether it is Connolly or Parrott...walks like a duck, its a duck. 

Well he's played 45 times in the Premier League and scored 5 goals. PL debut 19/20 season.

Idah 29 PL apps - 1 goal - PL debut 19/20.

Obafemi - 32 PL apps - 4 goals - PL debut 17/18

Parrott - 2 PL apps - 0 goals - PL debut 19/20

In total AC has scored 12 in 85 senior games - TP 16 in 114 (10 of which were in League One) - Idah 10 in 81 - Obafemi 22 in 105.

As I said previously, asides from Obafemi's "purple patch" 12 in 32 in the Ch'ship in 21/22 (most coming in the 6 months after Christmas), none of these lads have produced and Connolly has played more PL games and scored more PL goals than the others.
Our interest is what they have done, or could do, for Ireland, Parrott has a few goals, Obafemi one, nothing to write home about, but Connolly, nothing obviously...was the expression flogging a dead horse ever more applicable? There does seem to something more going on with the lad than can be explained away by injuries?

Connolly has 0 in 8 (robbed in Portugal by a Cancelo foul that should have resulted in a penalty btw), Idah 0 in 14, Parrott 4 in 18 (2 vs Andorra, only 1 in competitive games), Obafemi has 2 in 9. 

Far too early to call time on Connolly's career. I'm just pointing out that he hasnt really done any worse or better than his competition, bar perhaps Obafemi. His performance away to Portugal was outstanding and he was the best Irish player on the park in the 2 x U21 play off games vs Israel (showed a good attitude to step down to that level imo). I'm not going to die in a ditch over him and he has clearly had issues, both physical and perhaps mental in coping with his relative success at such an early age. I still retain high hopes for him and would like to see a front 3 with him off the left, and Ogbene off the right of Ferguson.

At Connolly's age, Ogbene was just coming off the back of his first full campaign in League One for Rotherham where he scored 1 in 27, the following season, he scored 0 in just 12 appearances in the Championship (admittedly playing as a RWB/RW at that stage). Things can change quickly in football, let's just hope Aaron gets a good move that works out this time around.

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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by TooOldForThis TooOldForThis wrote:

What has Connolly done "at the highest level"? Is that a reference to his couple of goals for Brighton? When a player fails at multiple clubs in straight succession, whether it is Connolly or Parrott...walks like a duck, its a duck. 

Well he's played 45 times in the Premier League and scored 5 goals. PL debut 19/20 season.

Idah 29 PL apps - 1 goal - PL debut 19/20.

Obafemi - 32 PL apps - 4 goals - PL debut 17/18

Parrott - 2 PL apps - 0 goals - PL debut 19/20

In total AC has scored 12 in 85 senior games - TP 16 in 114 (10 of which were in League One) - Idah 10 in 81 - Obafemi 22 in 105.

As I said previously, asides from Obafemi's "purple patch" 12 in 32 in the Ch'ship in 21/22 (most coming in the 6 months after Christmas), none of these lads have produced and Connolly has played more PL games and scored more PL goals than the others.
Our interest is what they have done, or could do, for Ireland, Parrott has a few goals, Obafemi one, nothing to write home about, but Connolly, nothing obviously...was the expression flogging a dead horse ever more applicable? There does seem to something more going on with the lad than can be explained away by injuries?

Connolly has 0 in 8 (robbed in Portugal by a Cancelo foul that should have resulted in a penalty btw), Idah 0 in 14, Parrott 4 in 18 (2 vs Andorra, only 1 in competitive games), Obafemi has 2 in 9. 

Far too early to call time on Connolly's career. I'm just pointing out that he hasnt really done any worse or better than his competition, bar perhaps Obafemi. His performance away to Portugal was outstanding and he was the best Irish player on the park in the 2 x U21 play off games vs Israel (showed a good attitude to step down to that level imo). I'm not going to die in a ditch over him and he has clearly had issues, both physical and perhaps mental in coping with his relative success at such an early age. I still retain high hopes for him and would like to see a front 3 with him off the left, and Ogbene off the right of Ferguson.

At Connolly's age, Ogbene was just coming off the back of his first full campaign in League One for Rotherham where he scored 1 in 27, the following season, he scored 0 in just 12 appearances in the Championship (admittedly playing as a RWB/RW at that stage). Things can change quickly in football, let's just hope Aaron gets a good move that works out this time around.


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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Seems Rosenior cant be that worried re Aaron, quel surprise!

A good signing if he can stay fit.
Massive "if" though.
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He went into the off season injured and needing this deal. I hope he's flying fit and ready to go. 
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When you compare the trajectory of his career to Viktor Gyökeres it's grim.

Connolly was miles ahead when at under-age level at Brighton, despite being two years younger.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

When you compare the trajectory of his career to Viktor Gyökeres it's grim.

Connolly was miles ahead when at under-age level at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

Is it? At the end of the 20/21 season, Gyokeres was just off the back of two mediocre Championship loans (11 games no goals at Swansea; 19 games 3 goals at Coventry). It was only the following season as a 23 year old (ie Connolly's age now) that he found some form, hitting 17 in 45 games for Coventry.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

When you compare the trajectory of his career to Viktor Gyökeres it's grim.

Connolly was miles ahead when at under-age level at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

Is it? At the end of the 20/21 season, Gyokeres was just off the back of two mediocre Championship loans (11 games no goals at Swansea; 19 games 3 goals at Coventry). It was only the following season as a 23 year old (ie Connolly's age now) that he found some form, hitting 17 in 45 games for Coventry.

I think most Brighton fans would have agreed that Connolly had a higher ceiling when both were at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

It's fair to assume that's why Connolly got a shot at PL level and Gyokeres was sent out on a string of loans.

I'm not saying it can't happen, but it would take some turnaround for Connolly to hit anything near 17 goals in the Championship this coming season.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

When you compare the trajectory of his career to Viktor Gyökeres it's grim.

Connolly was miles ahead when at under-age level at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

Is it? At the end of the 20/21 season, Gyokeres was just off the back of two mediocre Championship loans (11 games no goals at Swansea; 19 games 3 goals at Coventry). It was only the following season as a 23 year old (ie Connolly's age now) that he found some form, hitting 17 in 45 games for Coventry.

I think most Brighton fans would have agreed that Connolly had a higher ceiling when both were at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

It's fair to assume that's why Connolly got a shot at PL level and Gyokeres was sent out on a string of loans.

I'm not saying it can't happen, but it would take some turnaround for Connolly to hit anything near 17 goals in the Championship this coming season.

Sure the exact same would have been said about Gyokeres (and so many other strikers who take some time to get going)? Based on Connolly's form for Hull last year, if he can stay fit a good haul of goals this year is far from out of the question.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

When you compare the trajectory of his career to Viktor Gyökeres it's grim.

Connolly was miles ahead when at under-age level at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

Is it? At the end of the 20/21 season, Gyokeres was just off the back of two mediocre Championship loans (11 games no goals at Swansea; 19 games 3 goals at Coventry). It was only the following season as a 23 year old (ie Connolly's age now) that he found some form, hitting 17 in 45 games for Coventry.

I think most Brighton fans would have agreed that Connolly had a higher ceiling when both were at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

It's fair to assume that's why Connolly got a shot at PL level and Gyokeres was sent out on a string of loans.

I'm not saying it can't happen, but it would take some turnaround for Connolly to hit anything near 17 goals in the Championship this coming season.

Sure the exact same would have been said about Gyokeres (and so many other strikers who take some time to get going)? Based on Connolly's form for Hull last year, if he can stay fit a good haul of goals this year is far from out of the question.
2 in 5 for Hull last year, that ratio over full season if and big if he stays fit would be 14 in 35, 16 in 40, 18 in 45 etc so not entirely out of the question
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

When you compare the trajectory of his career to Viktor Gyökeres it's grim.

Connolly was miles ahead when at under-age level at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

Is it? At the end of the 20/21 season, Gyokeres was just off the back of two mediocre Championship loans (11 games no goals at Swansea; 19 games 3 goals at Coventry). It was only the following season as a 23 year old (ie Connolly's age now) that he found some form, hitting 17 in 45 games for Coventry.

I think most Brighton fans would have agreed that Connolly had a higher ceiling when both were at Brighton, despite being two years younger.

It's fair to assume that's why Connolly got a shot at PL level and Gyokeres was sent out on a string of loans.

I'm not saying it can't happen, but it would take some turnaround for Connolly to hit anything near 17 goals in the Championship this coming season.

Sure the exact same would have been said about Gyokeres (and so many other strikers who take some time to get going)? Based on Connolly's form for Hull last year, if he can stay fit a good haul of goals this year is far from out of the question.

The issue with Connolly isn't that it's taken him time to get going, he was going very well, and has since gone backwards.
 
Ultimately I hope you are right, but I'd imagine the bookies would give you quite generous odds on him scoring 15 goals+ in the Championship this season.

He has the talent, lets hope he can find the application.


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There's been no news at all on Connolly. Any idea on a return date?
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Using the 2 in 5 for Hull is not a realistic barometer to judge a player.

Ultimately, what your trying to insinuate is that if he stays fit he could replicate that and over the course of the season score approx 16 goals.

He's highly unlikely to replicate that form throughout the season and his injury record is poor.

The focus should be staying injury free for the season.

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