"Plastic Paddies" and the National Anthem |
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Gary McKay
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My uncles and aunts on both sides live or lived in the Luton-Hemel Hemsptead-Flitwick area since the 50's.
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Steve Amsterdam
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Never had any issues over the years.
Anyone giving stick to a fellow Ireland fan in regards to their accent or heritage hasn't a clue about our history. The fact we have one of the largest diaspora across the globe is of course due to our economic hardships and the will and character to try and find a better life elsewhere. There should be pride in the fact that those generations that moved abroad instilled a great sense of national pride in their children. |
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I found this out when I got home and my dad, who spent a number of years working in London told me all about the Irish in Luton. I was a bit embarrassed by my ignorance of it.
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Ask Tommy Robinson about the Luton Irish! Have Irish friends from Luton. Luton also had, not sure if this is still the case, the largest Celtic supporters club and from my hazy memory of it, most of them had an Irish passport.
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zizu Kilbane
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That's why I carefully chose my words by saying 'struck a blow' |
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The Huntacha
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Great to see that the Diaspora are so passionate about their team and heritage. some of our native fans could do with a lesson in it.
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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pre Madonna
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I hate bringing it up, but I hate that, especially since the celtic tiger, we are too good to care about Celtic in Ireland, when you live in Britain they are the team of the diaspora. Anyway, Mick McCarthy was my first footballing hero as a kid and still love his mixture of Irish and Yorkshire frankness. Super Mick
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the_walls
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How in god's name did the Celtic Tiger affect anyone in Ireland supporting or not supporting Celtic?
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The Huntacha
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But that's like saying that just because I'm Irish I should like GAA. Apart from the atmosphere on champions league nights/old firm games, I would have no interest in Celtic, similar to the way I've no interest in the Dublin team, despite being be from there. If supporting a Scottish team was based on the diaspora, why don't more people support hibs. |
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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the_walls
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And what about all the people of Irish heritage from places like Birmingham, London, Liverpool, Manchester, etc who support teams from those areas and have no interest in Celtic? Bizarre statement
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Not saying that at al, just the added hate towards Celtic is bizarre when you think of the diaspora, that is all.
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Why would Sweden be scared at hearing an anthem in a language none of them understand? It's just another national anthem to them. On the general debate, I don't have an issue with our 2G/foreign-based fans. The team used to be full of such players. But despite Ireland becoming a multinational, multicultural nation in recent years, socially the people are very cliquely, and don't welcome outsiders easily. You'll rarely see any foreigners in people's social circle, as they don't understand "craic" and so are not welcome on nights out. Footballwise, we went to the Euros in 2012, as our best prepared side to date but, unlike Mick or Jack at other tournaments, Trap didn't understand our need for "craic". The lack of it was later cited as an explanation for the players performance on the pitch. In sport, you see it harnessed in GAA, where the whole point of it is to promote Irish culture, where the first language is Irish, and even if they wanted to get involved at some level, there is really no room or time for anyone who is not Irish. |
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the_walls
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That makes more sense
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the_walls
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That is absolute horsesh*t of the highest order. Everyone and anyone is welcome to get involved in the GAA. The Mayo Under 21 team who won the All Ireland recently have a lad playing for them who's parents are from Pakistan and who was actually born over there himself. He is as much a Mayo man and an Irishman as I am. There is absolutely nothing wrong with the GAA wanting to promote Irish culture, why the hell shouldn't they, but to say there is no room or time for anyone who is not Irish is just a bare faced lie and if you have any integrity is something you should retract. In regards to your first paragraph, it is hardly suprising that in a lot of cases people are friends with people who are similar to them and have similar interests. That is the case the world over, not just Ireland.
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OscarDelta
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Really ? Funnily enough in GAA in London I see people playing who by colour alone would bar them from playing GAA and no Irish Roots yet still play it. I figure in circa 10 years or less we will have a couple of Intercounty players of Polish or other origin and will openly welcome it but the knuckle draggers will always be there claiming they not Irish. What makes a person Irish ? Is the GAA to decide ? |
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You're not Irish unless you dance at the crossroads with pasty white ladies / eat spuds morning noon and night and go to mass 27 times a day OD surely you know that ? I played a bit of GAA in London and there's some cracking second generation London lads taking up the game. More power to them. |
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the_walls
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There was a good programme on Setanta sometime last year I think about a school somewhere in London. One of the teachers was Irish and another lad born in London with Irish parents and they got a GAA team up and running. The players were from Afro-Carribean, Asian, Eastern European and other backgrounds, no connection to Ireland at all, but they seemed to love it. They went over to play a Feile in Ireland and did pretty well and the kids were all put up in local people's homes.
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