Scott Hogan

John Wick wrote: Bruce said he may be involved tomorrow.

must have been just before he died?

colemanY2K wrote: AVFCAnne wrote: Hogan doesn't even have an Irish passport yet so very unlikely he'll be in the squad for these games. you'd be amazed what can happen in our pretty little corner of the planet.

Well, nothing would surprise me. Not expecting to bump into Hogan in Tbilisi all the same.

TonyNotJack wrote: DangerHere wrote: Are we Ireland supporters??? Who cares if England was his 1st choice...it probably was since he grew up in England. He has now chosen Ireland and it is in a position we badly need. Remember Andy Townsend grew up supporting England...he even said he was so upset about Ireland beating England in 1988 that he cried!! He then became our captain.   If Hogan scores the goal that qualifies us for the World Cup will people not be happy because he MAYBE wanted to play for England first?? Best supporters in the world me hole Non-Irish born players who've played for us probably come into four categories : 1.If you cut them they would bleed green.They'd have never played for anyone else even if given the chance. Kevin Kilbane, Gary Breen, Tony Grealish, James McClane.  2.Felt dual qualified and had an allegiance to both countries? Ciaran Clarke,Stephen Reid,  Mick McCarthy, Jonathan Walters. 3. Played for Ireland as a career move but some grew to have an affection for the country? John Aldridge, Ray Houghton, Jason Mcateer, Mark Lawrenson. 4.The fourth group are the troublesome ones and maybe subjective to our own individual opinions and feelings. Players who when they played or since they retired have got your back up for one reason or another. Here's mine for what it's worth. Mick Robinson, Andy Townsend,Tony Cascarino, Clinton Morrison.  Where does Hogan fit in to this? We can all have our own ideas. Does it matter? I don't think so. I'm delighted to have him with us.

James McLean not irish born??

Edited by Saint Tom - 18 Aug 2017 at 10:35pm

Genuinely reckon Lawro would secretly class declaring for Ireland a mistake. Doubt there's much affection there to be honest.

Skelly wrote: Saint Tom wrote: TonyNotJack wrote: DangerHere wrote: Are we Ireland supporters??? Who cares if England was his 1st choice...it probably was since he grew up in England. He has now chosen Ireland and it is in a position we badly need. Remember Andy Townsend grew up supporting England...he even said he was so upset about Ireland beating England in 1988 that he cried!! He then became our captain.   If Hogan scores the goal that qualifies us for the World Cup will people not be happy because he MAYBE wanted to play for England first?? Best supporters in the world me hole Non-Irish born players who've played for us probably come into four categories : 1.If you cut them they would bleed green.They'd have never played for anyone else even if given the chance. Kevin Kilbane, Gary Breen, Tony Grealish, James McClane.  2.Felt dual qualified and had an allegiance to both countries? Ciaran Clarke,Stephen Reid,  Mick McCarthy, Jonathan Walters. 3. Played for Ireland as a career move but some grew to have an affection for the country? John Aldridge, Ray Houghton, Jason Mcateer, Mark Lawrenson. 4.The fourth group are the troublesome ones and maybe subjective to our own individual opinions and feelings. Players who when they played or since they retired have got your back up for one reason or another. Here's mine for what it's worth. Mick Robinson, Andy Townsend,Tony Cascarino, Clinton Morrison.  Where does Hogan fit in to this? We can all have our own ideas. Does it matter? I don't think so. I'm delighted to have him with us. James McLean not irish born?? Where do Paul McGrath & David O'Leary fit into your spectrum?? * in response to TNJ not ST

colemanY2K wrote: Some appalling attitudes on display here. The only reason this lad hasn't declared before now is because after serious knee injuries he wanted to make sure he got himself right for the club. Screw that up then he screws his entire career up. He has bust his bollocks to get where he has. Only 4 years ago at the age of 21 was he playing non league football in Lancashire. Anyone who says otherwise is talking through their hole and doing our latest player a major disservice. It's actually insulting.

Strazdas wrote: colemanY2K wrote: Some appalling attitudes on display here. The only reason this lad hasn't declared before now is because after serious knee injuries he wanted to make sure he got himself right for the club. Screw that up then he screws his entire career up. He has bust his bollocks to get where he has. Only 4 years ago at the age of 21 was he playing non league football in Lancashire. Anyone who says otherwise is talking through their hole and doing our latest player a major disservice. It's actually insulting. The injuries are irrelevant. All had had to do a year ago was say he would love to play for Ireland. The complete silence from him at the time of the press speculation and public comments from MON would suggest he was very much in two minds about the subject. Cyrus Christie for example says he told O'Neill he wanted to play for him the moment he knew he was on his radar.

Why? Just to make you happy? Not every 2nd or 3rd generation Irish lad bleeds green like Kilbane. However I genuinely believe this guy wanted to play for us when the time was right. The two ACL injuries have clearly f**ked with his head.

As he said he just wanted to focus on getting his career up and running. To try and get a full season under his belt.

I'll repost this comment because he wasn't silent last year. This was said last September to a local paper after roughly 7 matches of the season...

“I know we don't go back on it but I have been out injured but it's important to be playing as many games for Brentford at the moment.

“International honours is a big thing but there's only one place I want to play my football at the minute and that is here.

“They look after me, monitor my fitness and everything. Due to that I've played every minute this season which is some going after what's happened.”

This lad will be another Simon cox.

A better finisher maybe, but Cox is actually quite a good all round footballer. From what I've seen of Hogan he has raw potential, but he'll need to improve on aspects of his game such as his first touch and link-up play if he wants to progress to the EPL.