Terrorist attacks

GUFC_Andy wrote: sid waddell wrote: GUFC_Andy wrote: Roberto Baggio wrote: Denis Irwin wrote: Truck after driving into pedestrians in Stockholm. 3 dead so far. Suspected Terrorist attack according to Swedish Police. Alt Right fùckwits wiil be w**king themselves silly   Is this the standard response to every terrorist attack now? How about criticising the perpetrators instead of some people on the internet with right wing views?   He doesn't want to criticise the perpetrators incase he'll be deemed "racist" You on the other hand have absolutely no problem tarring every Muslim as being guilty for the actions of nutcases, because you actually are a racist. Europe has way, way, way more to fear from stupid fookwits like you than from terrorism. Islam isn't a race, sid

Roberto Baggio wrote: Denis Irwin wrote: Truck after driving into pedestrians in Stockholm. 3 dead so far. Suspected Terrorist attack according to Swedish Police. Alt Right fùckwits wiil be w**king themselves silly   Is this the standard response to every terrorist attack now? How about criticising the perpetrators instead of some people on the internet with right wing views?

That and "how come nobody was this upset when <insert terror attack in sh*thole country>".

Islam is a set of ideas.  A totalitarian, violent set of ideas with the end goal of global domination.  It's written in their little handbook, aka the Quran.  It's not racist to say that, I also believe that a majority of Muslims don't hold extreme views.

reddladd wrote: What governments need to do better is weed out those Imams or individuals who are grooming these loo laas and throw them into the insane asylum. They cannot use airstrikes by the coalition as an excuse in Stockholm considering Swedan has been to the forefront in taking in refugees and Asylum seekers. Lets be honest here you can't keep everybody happy. Swedan might be colder and have more structure and rules than countries in Africa and parts of the middle east but it's a damn sight safer. If you have a problem with that move elsewhere, don't groom some dimwit to drive a lorry into innocent civilians. FFS like!

Similarly, though, architecture has a part to play as well.

Pedestrianised streets and areas should have rigid barriers and bollards to stop trucks and cars entering them, especially at speed.

It's not difficult. Hell, Arsenal did it when they designed the Emirates, and that was before this sort of attack was a thing. It shouldn't be difficult to install a little bit of street furniture that doesn't inconvenience people much (not pedestrians, anyway) and is an obvious impediment to terrorists.

Ah jaysus SD you can't be blaming the lack of bollards for what some loolaa does!

reddladd wrote: Ah jaysus SD you can't be blaming the lack of bollards for what some loolaa does!

I'm not.

I'm just saying, design can help prevent the worst of these sort of atrocities.

pre Madonna wrote: Steve1983 wrote: Islam is a set of ideas.  A totalitarian, violent set of ideas with the end goal of global domination.  It's written in their little handbook, aka the Quran.  It's not racist to say that, I also believe that a majority of Muslims don't hold extreme views. I suggest you read it.

I have, it's filled with verses that incite violence, intolerance and conquest.  

Landon Donovan wrote: Steve1983 wrote: Islam is a set of ideas.  A totalitarian, violent set of ideas with the end goal of global domination.  It's written in their little handbook, aka the Quran.  It's not racist to say that, I also believe that a majority of Muslims don't hold extreme views. You would be surprised on how many have extreme views http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law That's just Britain. Imagine what it's like in Saudi Arabia, Pakistan or Bangladesh.

That film East is East was deemed a comedy but it's social commentary was excellent. The whole point about identity of the Pakistani born father and British born sons and how it ends. An absolute fantastic film.

Young Muslims being radicalised is a problem and needs to be dealt with at grassroots but this ISIS (apolitical) internet inspired death cult atrocities seem to be carried out by people with no extremist background, some minor criminal past that drink alcohol and take drugs. They just decide to radicalize themselves without assistance from an outside party.

How can you monitor and prevent someone from simply using a car or hijacking a truck to ram into pedestrians? These lone wolf random attacks from persons with no previous background are impossible to prevent. They can only be responded too and stopped as they're happening and by then the terrorist has achieved his goal of carrying out the act and getting worldwide attention.

The coordinated attacks are easier to intercept as there's more people involved and it's planned over several weeks/,months but Abdeslam who was caught after the Paris attacks was a barman and I think there was photos of him boozing and dancing in some niteclub in Brussels in the February before the attacks.Again its a very short timeframe to identify someone in his category.

There really isn't any solution to preventing lone wolf attacks and there'll always be coordinated attacks that slip the net. Better chance if stopping people with previous links but not some coked up scumbag who decided to take his rage out on innocent people which ended up killing 3 Irish people on a beach in Tunisia.

Edited by irishmufc - 07 Apr 2017 at 9:28pm