Daryl Horgan

The O'Shea wrote: I said nothing about 1 million quid, that was another poster so don't attribute it to me. They could for example offer Horgan say, 90,000 to sign a year long contract if they believed they could then sell him on for over 100,000. Horgan gets 90,000 in his back pocket and Dundalk make a profit off their asset, good business for everyone.

One lad saying throw him a million quid and one saying LOI footballers rarely go for more than 100k. Just goes to show most lads haven't a clue until Gary Neville or Jamie Carragher tells them their opinion.

AnCearrbhach wrote: One lad saying throw him a million quid and one saying LOI footballers rarely go for more than 100k. Just goes to show most lads haven't a clue until Gary Neville or Jamie Carragher tells them their opinion.

Well give us your verdict in that case oh great one, because I wouldn't be holding my breath on Neville or Carragher sitting down to have a drawn out discussion on the extent of LOI transfer fees.

Luis Amor Rodriguez wrote: Yes, tying lads down to deals whereby the club would get at least some pay-out if they moved would be a critical first step to making sustainable financial progress.   Horgan leaving for nothing sticks badly in the throat in a league that needs all the money it can get (and not just a €5,000 handshake).

Green Devil wrote: Is it not obvious that Citizen meant the player would be worth around €1 million, he didn't mention giving Horgan €1 million quid ffs.....

Citizen wrote: they should give him a lump sum to sign, easily worth 1m

Citizen believes he's easily worth 1M and that may be true but will a Championship club pay that for him?
Hes been consistently playing well for Dundalk and no one was banging down his door at the end of last year. It's a very similar situation to Towell.

Richie Towell is on about E350k/year to sit on the Brighton bench and sometimes to sit at home. He was most likely given a decent signing on fee too.

The money involved for Dundalk to hold onto Horgan would be astronomical in LOI terms. They are after all playing in front of crowds of around 3k with zero TV money and shag all league prize money.

It's unfortunate that he's not on a longterm deal there but the reason he isn't is because he doesn't want one as that may put Championship clubs off.

LOI clubs need to get up to a level of professionalism where transfer fees can be demanded for their best players but they need to mix that with long term viability. It's a slow process and I expect alot more Daryl Horgan to go for nothing before its achieved.

Throwing "lump sums" around hoping to make it back is a gamble LOI clubs should not be taking. It was done before and the entire league nearly went out of existence and is only just recovering 10 years later with the likes of Shelbourne and Bohemians still carrying legacy debt in the millions. Which will hopefully be brought down to manageable levels with the Dalymount deal.

As has been said he could break his leg or lose form and where does that leave Dundalk?
If Horgan goes for nothing he goes for nothing, it's unfortunate but Dundalk will move on.
It can't be ignored that he's had a big part to play in Dundalk earning a lot of money in Europe so no one can say they haven't made a profit on him.

Edited by Bitored - 02 Oct 2016 at 6:19pm

Stillhuntinghenry wrote: Currently on a bus en route to derry in young conor mcdermott's back pocket

While I get your point, you clearly have forgotten about a much more important league match in oriel just a few days ago

Bitored wrote: Green Devil wrote: Is it not obvious that Citizen meant the player would be worth around €1 million, he didn't mention giving Horgan €1 million quid ffs..... Citizen wrote: they should give him a lump sum to sign, easily worth 1m Citizen believes he's easily worth 1M and that may be true but will a Championship club pay that for him? Hes been consistently playing well for Dundalk and no one was banging down his door at the end of last year. It's a very similar situation to Towell. Richie Towell is on about E350k/year to sit on the Brighton bench and sometimes to sit at home. He was most likely given a decent signing on fee too. The money involved for Dundalk to hold onto Horgan would be astronomical in LOI terms. They are after all playing in front of crowds of around 3k with zero TV money and shag all league prize money. It's unfortunate that he's not on a longterm deal there but the reason he isn't is because he doesn't want one as that may put Championship clubs off. LOI clubs need to get up to a level of professionalism where transfer fees can be demanded for their best players but they need to mix that with long term viability. It's a slow process and I expect alot more Daryl Horgan to go for nothing before its achieved. Throwing "lump sums" around hoping to make it back is a gamble LOI clubs should not be taking. It was done before and the entire league nearly went out of existence and is only just recovering 10 years later with the likes of Shelbourne and Bohemians still carrying legacy debt in the millions. Which will hopefully be brought down to manageable levels with the Dalymount deal. As has been said he could break his leg or lose form and where does that leave Dundalk? If Horgan goes for nothing he goes for nothing, it's unfortunate but Dundalk will move on. It can't be ignored that he's had a big part to play in Dundalk earning a lot of money in Europe so no one can say they haven't made a profit on him.

Bitored wrote: Green Devil wrote: If Horgan agrees a full 52 week contract with Dundalk at the end of the season, a sort of golden handshake to allow him to move for a fee (we'll say €300,000) wouldn't it be a nice sweetener for the club? I'm sure Horgan wouldn't say no to a €10,000 or €15,000 one off payment?  Lets call a spade a spade here, Horgan is operating at a higher level on a personal level than probably any other player in the country right now (McMillan second) and once he get's into the Ireland squad Dundalk are bound to be inundated with enquiries?  It's a moot point. He won't sign that contract. He's already got about E50k from the European run. Are you really suggesting that if Dundalk offer him 10k and 100k/year that he'll turn down Championship football? He won't get into the Ireland squad on a consistent basis playing in Ireland. He may get a token call up from MON similar to Rogers. Dundalk could go out in CL QR2 next year and then he'll be forgotten. He won't get near the Ireland team playing a starring role against Finn Harps. Serious question, do you watch LOI? Dave McMillian isn't the second best player in that Dundalk team never mind the league. He's having a stellar season and has scored some very important goals for them. McGuire and Fagan are ahead of him as strikers.

We may aswell scrap the league of Ireland and call it a day if Daryl Horgan doesn't make the next Ireland squad.

He is on a different level to any other player in the country. He's destroyed too many teams to be ignored and the fact he's done it in the europa league seals a spot surely?

Sensational stuff from him tonight.

Edited by ShamtheRam - 11 Oct 2016 at 7:56pm