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eire77
Ray Houghton Joined: 08 May 2012 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 2993 |
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Correct. Long leases. Usually 99 years and the management company are transferred ownership of the land, structure and common areas upon completion / disposal of all units within the development. However people who "purchase" the apartments usually become shareholders in the management company. This didn't always happen though particularly when developers went bust before developments were complete / sold. Edited by eire77 - 21 Oct 2015 at 4:57pm |
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Shoco
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Because the IRFU owned the land that the stadium was to be built on, and continue to do so |
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Shedite
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We've no need for more capacity. The reason it is like it is is to get the most people in with the restrictions that were there. The North Stand is lower to allow the sun get to those houses (ie through the gap).
As someone said, with the restrictions they had (loads of houses, dart alongside), it's the best they could have done. People seem to be asking for two things at once here, steeper stands fo less capacity, but also increase capacity. |
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Gryan
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Can't see it being too high on the priorities list, the money would be better off being invested elsewhere in Irish football, plenty of infrastructure in dire need of it!
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KING-CON
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Unlike its predecessor, which was solely owned by the IRFU, the current stadium is controlled by the IRFU and the FAI through a 50:50 joint venture known as the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company (LRSDC). The joint venture has a 60-year lease on the stadium; on expiry the stadium will return to the exclusive ownership of the IRFU. |
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roverstillidie
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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39849 |
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Its too big for football. I would have preferred a 35,000 stadium that we could fill every game. Wales are playing their games in Cardiff City's ground and it has helped them rather than playing in a vast empty Millenium Stadium.
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roverstillidie
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By the time this happens it will be time for the ground to be re-developed again and the cycle will start all over again i imagine
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thebronze14
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I was saying at the time that it was too small when building it!I thought we could sustain Croke Park attendences...How wrong was I?!
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KING-CON
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I'd say that was the thinking behind it. It also means the IRFU hang on to the valuable asset of the land. IF the FAI get their house in order over the next 55 years and make the league competitive and popular, they could look at building their own stadium for 2070! I wouldn't bet on that though.
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tobymcclure
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there must have been a novelty factor for watching soccer in croke park,
hence the big attendances. playing games against smaller teams in a smaller venue seems like a no-brainer! i think it would lead to a more effective 12th man, loud and intimidating.......... plus it would be more craic!
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roverstillidie
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Why would they want to do that though? The setup works, they have a good relationship with the IRFU and have halved the risk.
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OnTheOneRoad
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We've had 3 sellouts this campaign out of 5 and are likely to get a fourth against Bosnia, it certainly isn't too big for football generally. But for the smaller games a 30,000 seater would be nice. it'd be good for the team to always have a packed house, even if it requires building another smaller house
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Gary McKay
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Stonesy114
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Would love to have a stadium like the millennium alright. By far the nicest I've been too and the best in the world in my opinion,, The fans are right in on top of the pitch
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kimbap
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Not going to get into in on here again as i think its in a thread from a few years ago but it's not financially feasible in CP.Also the overall capacity would be 83k (assuming they built the hill the same as the canal) it's current capacity is 82,300.Some people talk awful sh1te on here. |
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t_rAndy
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Makes you a bit sick when you see the millennium stadium was built for 125m pounds and is an awesome stadium with huge capacity and retractable roof whereas landsdowne cost 3 times that and has an unfinished feel about it.
I'm glad we didn't build the Bertie bowl which might have been a nice stadium but it was all purpose so would have been a running track or huge pitch to accomadate GAA, wouldn't have worked. What probably would have worked best in terms of the stadium itself was Eircom Park. That was going to be a 45,000 seater stadium I think. It was being talked about around the time Wales were building millennium stadium and if I rmemeber the cost was not so high. They'd be no doubt be making money off it now anyway! What was the main reason it fell through? |
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