Can The Aviva be completed/made bigger?
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Topic: Can The Aviva be completed/made bigger?
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Subject: Can The Aviva be completed/made bigger?
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 8:52pm
| I overheard two lads talking about the Aviva, saying architects plans are there to put more tiers at the north end (old Havelock). Is it true that it could be made into a proper bowl with an extra smaller tier and corporate boxes etc? They said the IRFU and FAI had been buying houses behind the north end (and were now renting them out) and when they had enough they would apply for planning permission to finish it off properly???? |
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Posted By: ABFC
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 8:58pm
You're talking out of your HughJarse |
GB 1HughJarse wrote:Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:00pm
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No need for the extra capacity 50k is fine. The only time there is demand is when we play the like of Germany or if we're in a playoff. There won't be a sell out in the next campaign for instance. Wales might come close but won't sell out IMO ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:02pm
The rugby could easily get another few thousand more than we would easily ------------- Chips don't bounce |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:06pm
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True but it's souless enough as it is when were playing the likes Gibraltar and Faroes and there's only 25k there. Would be even worse with only 20/25k in a 60k seater. ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: ontheball
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:10pm
| Makes sense in the long term. Due to planning problems in regards to houses behind the North of the site, the North Stand could only be built to the level it is now. |
Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:12pm
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Metro North will be running before the Aviva is extended. ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: GB 1HughJarse
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:15pm
Yes but now that the recession is over  if you look back at Croke Park Euro 2008 home qualifiers attendances 72,000 v Wales 71,000 v Slovakia 67,000 v Germany and finally for a meaningless match 54,000 v Cyprus I value everyone's opinion but just want to know is it actually feasible??? "Build it and they will come" |
Posted By: BabbsBalls
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:20pm
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It's built . Not many of them come ------------- l hear you are a racist now, father ? |
Posted By: Sligo Hornet
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:21pm
...and Baldrick will run the Dublin Marathon in under 3 hours before both of the above.
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Posted By: depechemode
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:21pm
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We only build 3/4 stadiums in this country. Imagine Croke park as a bowl . As it is it looks sh*te . aviva isn't much better.. To be honest though we need a smaller stadium with perhaps 25k with a sliding roof for friendly matches , smaller games other sports concerts etc. |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:25pm
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For the Rugby I would say probably. For the football no when you condiser they'd probably only have one game at most that would potentially get 50k+ in a campaign (Providing they get a Germany,Spain,Italy etc.. and not a Greece) or unless we're in with a chance with automatic qualification in the final home game or we were to draw the Poles again and be outnumbered at home again ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: Fintan
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:28pm
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I love LR despite the north tier. One of my favourite stadiums. I also like Citroën C3 Picassos though so I might have strange tastes. The fact that it isn't 'normal' appeals to me. I agree with a smaller second stadium and would suggest properly renovating the likes of Dayler, Tallagh or something in Cork, the West or one of the meath towns. |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:31pm
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Ireland need a 35,000 capacity stadium for all but the big games. Bring back Eircom Park! Dalymount rebuilt into a 35,000 would be class ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: daveyc
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:31pm
| could defo do with a 25/30k stadium for the lesser games esp friendlies |
Posted By: drog addict
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:37pm
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What is the plan with dalyer or is it another pie in the sky job? How much will it hold? ------------- Chips don't bounce |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 9:40pm
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10k I think idea is for it to be ready by Euro 2020 so it can be used for teams training ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: DavidMan
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 10:03pm
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Really. They build a state of the art stadium and people are still giving out. Cry babies. Regarding CRoke park the hill is a wonderful idea even if it doesn't look good. The atmosphere it creates is great and most people want a standing terrace but when there is one somewhere else depechemode you'll complain ------------- We March On |
Posted By: zizu Kilbane
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 10:11pm
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Off topic but South Dublin county council have been quoted in the Tallaght Echo today saying that extra funds have been made available to build a 2.5k stand at the Square end of tallaght stadium...building to commence in 2017 ------------- "Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?" |
Posted By: depechemode
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 10:12pm
It might have an atmosphere but the hill attracts some scum bags too. Planning permission would never happen anyway . It has a fantastic history but it's still half finished looking. Aviva slightly better |
Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 10:30pm
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AVIVA stadium is a bad design when you compare it to stadiums around the world. The pitch in the lower tiers is too shallow giving terrible views from the SS. The acoustics are horrific. I haven't seen a stadium where you cant hear the crowd down the other end nor the stadium announcer. Compare it to similar size stadiums like the Friends Arena, Schalke, Poland's stadium... They offer better views from the lower tiers. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: GreenDodger93
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 10:44pm
| Its probably the worst modern stadium in the world |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 10:49pm
| To answer the question yes the north end could be completed to make a full bowl . The way stadiums are designed in the last ten years is so that expanding capacity can be done so with very little work required to the existing structure . To complete the bowl shape you'd probable need 12 months . But a bit like the same situation as Croke park great idea , completely possible but very likely to never happen |
Posted By: Landon Donovan
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 11:05pm
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It would be pointless. It was a very silly idea to rebuilt the stadium on that site. They should have tried to go to the Poolbeg Site just up the road. The stadium was outdated before it was even opened. Concessions are a disaster, the views from the lower stands are a waste of a ticket, the north stand in its entiretly is a pointless excercise, there are only 2 big screens (which are not very big), it doesnt have a retractable roof, the exits from the centre of East Upper is a safety hazard. All of the exits on the top tier are quite hazardous if there needs to be an emergency evacuation. The life-span of this stadium will be short ------------- Irish Times Fantasy 6 Nations League Name: YBIG League Password: YBIG |
Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 11:08pm
| It's the worst modern stadium I've been in...No love for it at all...Actually it looks well on the outside and is deadly looking from the Point theatre |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 11:36pm
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Not to mention the toilet entrances are cramped, not suited to the numbers of people coming and going at half time and generally encourage congestion and crushes. There should be an entrance and exit to every toilet but there isn't. ------------- 
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Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 1:00am
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I think municipal stadia were the way to go. Of course it's probably too late now. It would have been great to have a 30-50k all seater stadia in Galway, Cork and Dublin. GAA teams and our international sides and maybe even some of the provincial sides could play their games in them. When public money was being handed out to the GAA making municipal stadiums should have been a condition of it. ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: depechemode
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 1:24am
| At least Tallaght stadium went to Rovers despite the gaa and Thomas Davis trying to derail it a few years ago.. |
Posted By: The Fly
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 1:34am
I'm glad this didn't happen. Watching football in a stadium, when the closest seat is 20 meters from the pitch
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Posted By: Hans Moleman
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 1:36am
For a stadium built only a few years ago, the toilet situation is shocking altogether. How the feck they managed to design that aspect of the stadium so badly is beyond me. ------------- "I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that." |
Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 2:02am
As opposed to being at the back of a poorly designed stadium? The new landsdowne Road ( I refuse to call it the Aviva as that's a marketing ploy and Aviva are a shower of bastards) Is hardly a perfect design. Admittedly it wouldn't be ideal but there's plenty of country that do have running tracks around their pitches (particularly eastern European countries) ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: OnTheOneRoad
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 2:14am
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We've had a loud and very good atmosphere for the games in this campaign for the first time in a long period. I personally can't stand stadia with a running track around them. My biggest issue with the Aviva is that the first two rows in the lower stand appear to be somehow slightly below the pitch. I'd be in favour of the north stand being completed. we could have good home support in that north stand and put the away fans miles up into the sky somewhere in a corner of the stadium, if only the brits hadn't torn up our stadium from above 20 years ago  ------------- No thank you Turkish......I'm sweet enough |
Posted By: ontheball
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 8:51am
It must have been a design fault of European Stadia building of the past few years as the toilets in the Warsaw Stadium were even worse. It was Chaotic at half time trying to get into the jacks. |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 9:15am
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I do actually like the Aviva despite the poor acoustics. It looks class from the outside. ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: erimus
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 9:18am
Spot on ------------- This is our f**king country we're talking about - Keano ROLL ON 2016 |
Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 10:04am
There speaks a man who knows !!!!
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Posted By: KING-CON
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 10:22am
| There is no way the FAI have been buying houses behind the north end. They don't have the funds to do that. Its possible the IRFU might be. It is their stadium. |
Posted By: gazurtoids
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 10:31am
Yeah but it looks fking ridiculous .....3/4 Champions league 1/4 united Sunday churches league |
Posted By: AnCearrbhach
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 10:44am
It's IRFU land but the stadium is split, bit of a strange situation really. It's a pure rugby stadium though. Seating not steep enough on lower tiers, way to many premium seats and in one of the most affluent areas in the country. ------------- Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile. |
Posted By: Devrozex
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 10:55am
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As a number of people have said it looks great from the outside but that's about it. The Nou Camp looks fairly sh*te on the outside however I know which stadium I'd prefer to have! I wish we built something as good as the Millennium Stadium in Cardiff. Fans right on top of the pitch, seats tiered really well so almost everywhere in the stadium has a great view and then a retractable roof to really ramp up the atmosphere. |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 10:56am
I've heard that the price that the residence where asking was one of the reasons is was never done then along with the light issues to the remaining ones
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Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 11:04am
To answer the question, of course the expansion could happen, but with the IRFU having severe financial issues and the FAI struggling I find it very hard to believe they are buying up property in D4. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: Denis Irwin
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 11:10am
It more or less is. The supposed "Joint Ownership" is only for 50 years then it reverts to the full ownership of the IRFU ------------- Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one". Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 11:13am
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So people who own their apartments don't actually own them as there is a finite lifespan? ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: bannerboy95
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 1:17pm
| fai definately wouldn't have the funds to be splashing out on houses especially at the moment.....no need to extend the capacity in the aviva it is as fine a set up as any out there |
Posted By: SuperDave84
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 2:04pm
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Yeah, the toilets in Warsaw were also odd.... the frickin' doors! Who thought that was a good idea? The ones in Croker are excellent: a big entrance and a big exit, no doors, and just a chicane type deal so you can't see in from the outside. From what I recall, Gelsenkirchen also had opening and closing doors. It really is not hard to get right, so you'd wonder why it is so often got so wrong. -------------
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 2:37pm
In Poland there seems to be a tradition of having doors in public toilets. At the airport you have to open a door to enter the sink area then open another door to get to the urinals. It doesn't suit a stadium though and it was a disaster at half time trying to go to the jacks. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: ShamtheRam
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 2:41pm
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If you build it.....they will come ------------- YBIG NPF founder and CEO |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 2:57pm
Think it might be more a building regulation , but you're right doesn't work well in stadiums
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Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 3:04pm
It really is. To have a blank sheet of paper and come up with that stadium is criminal.
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Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 3:37pm
Not really a blank sheet the site had a few restrictions which affected the design. The Design has won a few awards as well . But i would agree they could have done a lot better
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Posted By: FrankosHereNow
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 3:43pm
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Definitely not a blank sheet. Restricted by surrounding buildings, the dart line etc. It was a reasonable job considering the restrictions they were working with. ------------- YBIG Quiz Champion 2016, 2017 & 2018. As You Were Three in a row |
Posted By: Daragho
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 4:15pm
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It's a 1,000 times better than the old Lansdowne and you know it. I can't remember people praising the jacks in that stadium, or the wooden seats that the English fans ripped up and used as missiles, or the weird wall in the middle of the North Terrace. The only reason the atmosphere is sometimes sh!te is when there's no fcuker in the place. There was nothing wrong with the atmosphere when Shane Long belted that ball past Neuer.
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Posted By: Bitored
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 4:44pm
What? Why would the FAI put themselves 50million in the hole? They'll just about have paid off the debt when the IRFU get it back ------------- I won the Player of the Century award thanks to the people.Pele was second.He also came second behind Aryton Senna as Brazil's greatest sportsman.The award FIFA gave Pele isn't worth sh*t - Maradona |
Posted By: eire77
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 4:52pm
Correct. Long leases. Usually 99 years and the management company are transferred ownership of the land, structure and common areas upon completion / disposal of all units within the development. However people who "purchase" the apartments usually become shareholders in the management company. This didn't always happen though particularly when developers went bust before developments were complete / sold. ------------- Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me... |
Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:01pm
Because the IRFU owned the land that the stadium was to be built on, and continue to do so -------------  YOUR 3 IN A ROW LEAGUE CHAMPIONS |
Posted By: Shedite
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:01pm
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We've no need for more capacity. The reason it is like it is is to get the most people in with the restrictions that were there. The North Stand is lower to allow the sun get to those houses (ie through the gap). As someone said, with the restrictions they had (loads of houses, dart alongside), it's the best they could have done. People seem to be asking for two things at once here, steeper stands fo less capacity, but also increase capacity. |
Posted By: Gryan
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:04pm
| Can't see it being too high on the priorities list, the money would be better off being invested elsewhere in Irish football, plenty of infrastructure in dire need of it! |
Posted By: KING-CON
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:10pm
Unlike its predecessor, which was solely owned by the IRFU, the current stadium is controlled by the IRFU and the FAI through a 50:50 joint venture known as the Lansdowne Road Stadium Development Company (LRSDC). The joint venture has a 60-year lease on the stadium; on expiry the stadium will return to the exclusive ownership of the IRFU. |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:15pm
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Posted By: Trap junior
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:15pm
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Its too big for football. I would have preferred a 35,000 stadium that we could fill every game. Wales are playing their games in Cardiff City's ground and it has helped them rather than playing in a vast empty Millenium Stadium. ------------- Pied Piper to: Baldrick, Brendan 88, 9Fingers, Borussia and more... 97.6% chance this post will be replied to by Baldrick (source: PWC) |
Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:16pm
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Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:17pm
By the time this happens it will be time for the ground to be re-developed again and the cycle will start all over again i imagine
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Posted By: thebronze14
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:35pm
I was saying at the time that it was too small when building it!I thought we could sustain Croke Park attendences...How wrong was I?!
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Posted By: KING-CON
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:42pm
I'd say that was the thinking behind it. It also means the IRFU hang on to the valuable asset of the land. IF the FAI get their house in order over the next 55 years and make the league competitive and popular, they could look at building their own stadium for 2070! I wouldn't bet on that though.
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Posted By: tobymcclure
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:43pm
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there must have been a novelty factor for watching soccer in croke park, hence the big attendances. playing games against smaller teams in a smaller venue seems like a no-brainer! i think it would lead to a more effective 12th man, loud and intimidating.......... plus it would be more craic!
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Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:52pm
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Why would they want to do that though? The setup works, they have a good relationship with the IRFU and have halved the risk. ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |
Posted By: OnTheOneRoad
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:58pm
We've had 3 sellouts this campaign out of 5 and are likely to get a fourth against Bosnia, it certainly isn't too big for football generally. But for the smaller games a 30,000 seater would be nice. it'd be good for the team to always have a packed house, even if it requires building another smaller house ------------- No thank you Turkish......I'm sweet enough |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 6:14pm
Im shocked that you didnt know this. ------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: Stonesy114
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 7:29pm
| Would love to have a stadium like the millennium alright. By far the nicest I've been too and the best in the world in my opinion,, The fans are right in on top of the pitch |
Posted By: kimbap
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 7:41pm
Not going to get into in on here again as i think its in a thread from a few years ago but it's not financially feasible in CP.Also the overall capacity would be 83k (assuming they built the hill the same as the canal) it's current capacity is 82,300.Some people talk awful sh1te on here. |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 7:55pm
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Makes you a bit sick when you see the millennium stadium was built for 125m pounds and is an awesome stadium with huge capacity and retractable roof whereas landsdowne cost 3 times that and has an unfinished feel about it. I'm glad we didn't build the Bertie bowl which might have been a nice stadium but it was all purpose so would have been a running track or huge pitch to accomadate GAA, wouldn't have worked. What probably would have worked best in terms of the stadium itself was Eircom Park. That was going to be a 45,000 seater stadium I think. It was being talked about around the time Wales were building millennium stadium and if I rmemeber the cost was not so high. They'd be no doubt be making money off it now anyway! What was the main reason it fell through? |
Posted By: Shoco
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 8:22pm
would assume if they built it they would leave the bottom tier standing ------------- YOUR 3 IN A ROW LEAGUE CHAMPIONS |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 9:06pm
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Yes Eircom Park was correctly scrapped by Delaney because it would put the FAI in serious debt for years !!! ------------- "Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex |
Posted By: Charlton's Child
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 10:29pm
The hill would remain as is with the removal of the big screen and the upper tier section completed to make the bowl . This would push the capacity up to 90,000. To do this you would need to by the houses behind the hill with the train line incorporated into the stand similar to what's at landsdown road now . Yea financially it wouldn't be cheap but it's not like the gaa are short of a few quid . |
Posted By: Fitzinho
Date Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 11:53pm
| Would mean taking the entire roof off and rebuilding it €€€€€€ |
Posted By: Drumcondra 69er
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 9:20am
Typical that in Ireland when we finally got our sh1t together to build a stadium, we did so right at the peak of a boom yet when it came to selling tickets our glorious leader turned down a third party offer that would have cleared the debt in one fell swoop because he thought he could make an extra 40 or 50 million selling them himself. Right when the arse fell out of the economy. Eircom Park would have been built long before then only for Bertie Ahern putting every obstacle possibly in its way so he could get the FAI on board his vanity project. He even went to the length of throwing circa 40 million unprompted to the GAA just before an initial vote on the foreign sports ban in Croker when the FAI were looking to move bigger attendance games there. Needless to say the extra few bob prevented the motion being passed on that occasion I'm certain Eircom Park debt would be less than the Lansdowne debt at this stage. The original plan for Lansdowne was to turn the pitch 90 degrees like the did with the Millennium but a small number of residents wouldn't sell up which meant they had to build with a restricted north end. The stadium is crap down that end due to that. It looks decent from the outside but I'm not a fan. That said, view is fine from where I stand in the SS, No better or worse from behind the goal in anywhere else I've ever gone to games in. View from the north is awful due to the tiny number of rows. ------------- Blog: http://afalsefirstxi.blogspot.ie/" rel="nofollow - A False First XI Twitter: @afalsefirstxi Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/afalsefirstxi/" rel="nofollow - A False First XI |
Posted By: AbuAbu
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 4:04pm
better to be in a smaller full house than a half empty big house .......... or as we are used to lately a half empty small house ------------- It's not me it's you:-) |
Posted By: Ibaraki
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2015 at 5:59pm
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They should have dug down to a level where the highest current part of the stadium would come up to the level of the North stand. We would of then got a finished stadium and the resident would still get their light. It probably would have tripled the price but it would be a lot better! What they ended up with is sh*te.
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Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2015 at 11:38am
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Posted By: roverstillidie
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2015 at 11:39am
It is an interesting discussion. Would the FAI have been better off with a greenfield site in Clondalkin or the situation we are in now which is a half share of a city centre location? ------------- He is Karl Pilkington in the LOI section and Karl Marx outwith it |