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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

No but realistically, we know there's a very good chance we could lose in Warsaw even if Poland and Scotland draw. Most people don't see us winning in Warsaw if we have to so the logical aim is for Scotland to be put out of contention altogether tomorrow.

It might be unambitious but it's probably the best realistic outcome we could get tbh.

if we match Scotland's results tonight then Scotland are out. Ideal scenario is s Scotland win plus an Ireland win, as unlikely as that is.
 
THIS!! If we are ever gonna beat Germany then it will be tonight. Their form (aswell as ours) has been erratic for the whole campaign. Germany only need a draw. Someone else mentioned that if we can frustrate them for 60-70 minutes (like we did in Germany) then they will ease back and try and contain us to get their draw...if we can go at them properly then (like we did in germany) then who knows
 
All I know is that as soon as we started having a go at them away, it took us 20 minutes to get a goal. This is doable!! COME ON IRELAND!

I do think too that if ever we're going to get a big result, it will be in a game where no-one expects us to do it. It would certainly help our cause if we could keep Germany scoreless in the first half (or alternatively be level at 1-1 or whatever). I've a funny feeling we'll get something out of tonight's game.....MON has always been the past master at getting a result against all the odds.
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Originally posted by Saint Tom Saint Tom wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

No but realistically, we know there's a very good chance we could lose in Warsaw even if Poland and Scotland draw. Most people don't see us winning in Warsaw if we have to so the logical aim is for Scotland to be put out of contention altogether tomorrow.

It might be unambitious but it's probably the best realistic outcome we could get tbh.

if we match Scotland's results tonight then Scotland are out. Ideal scenario is s Scotland win plus an Ireland win, as unlikely as that is.
 
THIS!! If we are ever gonna beat Germany then it will be tonight. Their form (aswell as ours) has been erratic for the whole campaign. Germany only need a draw. Someone else mentioned that if we can frustrate them for 60-70 minutes (like we did in Germany) then they will ease back and try and contain us to get their draw...if we can go at them properly then (like we did in germany) then who knows
 
All I know is that as soon as we started having a go at them away, it took us 20 minutes to get a goal. This is doable!! COME ON IRELAND!
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

No but realistically, we know there's a very good chance we could lose in Warsaw even if Poland and Scotland draw. Most people don't see us winning in Warsaw if we have to so the logical aim is for Scotland to be put out of contention altogether tomorrow.

It might be unambitious but it's probably the best realistic outcome we could get tbh.

if we match Scotland's results tonight then Scotland are out. Ideal scenario is s Scotland win plus an Ireland win, as unlikely as that is.
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Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

No but realistically, we know there's a very good chance we could lose in Warsaw even if Poland and Scotland draw. Most people don't see us winning in Warsaw if we have to so the logical aim is for Scotland to be put out of contention altogether tomorrow.

It might be unambitious but it's probably the best realistic outcome we could get tbh.


I just done see the logic in that, if we get a playoff its going to be against even more superior opposition than Poland.

We're currently looking at facing Holland/Turkey, Croatia, Russia/Sweden.. I wouldnt be confident of beating any of those over 2 legs.

Our best chance right now is to go and beat Poland if they fail to beat Scotland.


Perhaps, but it ought to be easier to beat a team over two legs than to beat one team in a one off game away from home, even if the team over two legs are marginally better than the one off game team. Put it like this: a 1-1 draw away to Poland could knock us out completely, depending on tomorrow's result. A 1-1 draw away to Turkey, Holland, Croatia, Russia or Sweden would likely not be a bad result (especially if we get a 0-0 or a win at home).


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Originally posted by valo88 valo88 wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

No but realistically, we know there's a very good chance we could lose in Warsaw even if Poland and Scotland draw. Most people don't see us winning in Warsaw if we have to so the logical aim is for Scotland to be put out of contention altogether tomorrow.

It might be unambitious but it's probably the best realistic outcome we could get tbh.


I just done see the logic in that, if we get a playoff its going to be against even more superior opposition than Poland.

We're currently looking at facing Holland/Turkey, Croatia, Russia/Sweden.. I wouldnt be confident of beating any of those over 2 legs.

Our best chance right now is to go and beat Poland if they fail to beat Scotland.

We may not need to beat anyone in the play offs though : two draws may be enough and we're well capable of that.
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

No but realistically, we know there's a very good chance we could lose in Warsaw even if Poland and Scotland draw. Most people don't see us winning in Warsaw if we have to so the logical aim is for Scotland to be put out of contention altogether tomorrow.

It might be unambitious but it's probably the best realistic outcome we could get tbh.


I just done see the logic in that, if we get a playoff its going to be against even more superior opposition than Poland.

We're currently looking at facing Holland/Turkey, Croatia, Russia/Sweden.. I wouldnt be confident of beating any of those over 2 legs.

Our best chance right now is to go and beat Poland if they fail to beat Scotland.
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No but realistically, we know there's a very good chance we could lose in Warsaw even if Poland and Scotland draw. Most people don't see us winning in Warsaw if we have to so the logical aim is for Scotland to be put out of contention altogether tomorrow.

It might be unambitious but it's probably the best realistic outcome we could get tbh.


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Exactly. A double draw is much better than a double defeat.
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We shouldn't necessarily be hoping that Poland beat Scotland. We should be hoping that Scotland get the same result we get against Germany.
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Originally posted by ObserwatorPZPN ObserwatorPZPN wrote:

no this time :(
and in warsaw?
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no this time :(
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Originally posted by ObserwatorPZPN ObserwatorPZPN wrote:

Cautious optimism is the general feeling in this game run up.
We expect very tough game and win but we will take a draw as well. We don`t want to leave the job till the last game.
Coach Nawałka said he has respect for Scotland and complemented our rivals but also know his team is strong. There is a good atmosphere in the dressing room and we have no injury problems (that will probably change before Ireland game ;) )
Media approach is quite calm ad should be that way. No unnecessary winding up. No fear either. No putting extra pressure on our palyers. All presure is and should stay on the Scottish players shoulders.
We probably start with just one striker and typical counter attack lineup with Milik and Piszczek/Błasczykowski just behind Lewandowski.


How many Poles do you expect at the game?
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It all boils down to Scotland cannot lose this game... they have 1 chance and 1 chance only or they are out, it's a huge pressure game.....Ireland have 2 chances albeit slim chances
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Originally posted by ObserwatorPZPN ObserwatorPZPN wrote:

Cautious optimism is the general feeling in this game run up.
We expect very tough game and win but we will take a draw as well. We don`t want to leave the job till the last game.
Coach Nawałka said he has respect for Scotland and complemented our rivals but also know his team is strong. There is a good atmosphere in the dressing room and we have no injury problems (that will probably change before Ireland game ;) )
Media approach is quite calm ad should be that way. No unnecessary winding up. No fear either. No putting extra pressure on our palyers. All presure is and should stay on the Scottish players shoulders.
We probably start with just one striker and typical counter attack lineup with Milik and Piszczek/Błasczykowski just behind Lewandowski.

Yes, it's a hard type of game to predict and any result is possible : a Polish win, a draw or even a Scottish victory. Poland haven't been quite as good against the big teams away from home and Scotland are under huge pressure so it should be fascinating to watch.

My gut feeling is that it might be a 1-1 draw but no result would surprise me.
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Originally posted by ObserwatorPZPN ObserwatorPZPN wrote:

Cautious optimism is the general feeling in this game run up.
We expect very tough game and win but we will take a draw as well. We don`t want to leave the job till the last game.
Coach Nawałka said he has respect for Scotland and complemented our rivals but also know his team is strong. There is a good atmosphere in the dressing room and we have no injury problems (that will probably change before Ireland game ;) )
Media approach is quite calm ad should be that way. No unnecessary winding up. No fear either. No putting extra pressure on our palyers. All presure is and should stay on the Scottish players shoulders.
We probably start with just one striker and typical counter attack lineup with Milik and Piszczek/Błasczykowski just behind Lewandowski.
if you get a draw against the scots then you might need a result against us and tbh i reckon we will beat you's any way.
no pressure like…….
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