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Trump v Biden

TRUMP:

charged currently with 91 felonies ( with more and worse to come);

26 sexual assault allegations, including rape of a 14 yr old girl, and recent $5 million dollar verdict against him;

6 bankruptcies;

5 Draft deferrals;

4 indictments;

2 impeachments;

1 Company conviction;

1 fake university shut down;

$25 million fraud settlement;

$2 million charity abuse settlement

And much, much more, including serious financial corruption, mass Covid deaths that could have been prevented and the small matter of a multi-pronged plot and violent coup against a democratically elected government.

BIDEN :

In first two years:

Inflation Reduction Act ( lowered cost of living, tackled climate crisis, reduced deficit, increased corporate taxes to make Medicare affordable for record no. of people, etc);

Highest ever employment and job growth in US history;

Manufacturing boom;

Expansion of benefits and services for veterans;

Student debt forgiveness;

Strengthened economy and changed course of pandemic;

Protection of reproductive and LGBTQ right;

Multiple judicial appointments reflecting diversity in US;

Supported Ukraine and strengthened NATO.

And much, much more. Says it all about the madness and dystopia of contemporary America that an increasingly authoritarian and openly fascist cult headed by a malignant narcissist who is going to be in jail before the next election is afforded equivalence. The toxic influence of Fox News and other media has a lot to answer for.
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Biden and his admin are some clowns. His disastrous open border policy is cutting off military aid to Ukraine in a roundabout way. 

Trump and his cronies are refusing to accept a deal on the tightening of the border because republicans want this Biden made mess to continue to elections and sway voters. 

In the final year of his term when Ukraine should be getting huge aid from their biggest partner they are getting none. If trump wins they could be looking at 5 year's of no US support. Great job 👍
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Bollocks. A deal was done covering the border and Ukraine aid which the House now looks set to renege on at the behest of Trump, whose only focus amidst bouts of raging senile ranting is staying out of jail for the multiple crimes he is shortly due to be charged with. In the meantime, he is due to lose millions within the next week for the defamation of one of his rape victims and real estate fraud. The GOP has gone full fascist and is threatening to ignore a Supreme Court judgement to indulge in its latest civil war posturing. A lot of their politicians are Russian assets including Trump himself.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Bollocks. A deal was done covering the border and Ukraine aid which the House now looks set to renege on at the behest of Trump, whose only focus amidst bouts of raging senile ranting is staying out of jail for the multiple crimes he is shortly due to be charged with. In the meantime, he is due to lose millions within the next week for the defamation of one of his rape victims and real estate fraud. The GOP has gone full fascist and is threatening to ignore a Supreme Court judgement to indulge in its latest civil war posturing. A lot of their politicians are Russian assets including Trump himself.
If Trump loses the election it's a positive outcome but if he wins it's a disaster considering this year Ukraine isn't getting any support. Very short sighted by the democrat's. They should know by now trump would act the ****.
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If he won ( spoiler : he will not ), he would hand Ukraine over with the support of other traitors in his party, though he would need to control the Senate to do that. The Democratic Party will in my opinion retain the Presidency, take the House back convincingly and the Senate will likely go to them too or be 50/50 with the VP having a casting vote. I am not sure what culpability you are ascribing to the Democrats but it appears to be misplaced. A way will be found, moves have already been made with a view to seizing frozen Russian assets to fund Ukraine.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Bollocks. A deal was done covering the border and Ukraine aid which the House now looks set to renege on at the behest of Trump, whose only focus amidst bouts of raging senile ranting is staying out of jail for the multiple crimes he is shortly due to be charged with. In the meantime, he is due to lose millions within the next week for the defamation of one of his rape victims and real estate fraud. The GOP has gone full fascist and is threatening to ignore a Supreme Court judgement to indulge in its latest civil war posturing. A lot of their politicians are Russian assets including Trump himself.

Isn't it funny how the U.S. border is magically 'open' all of a sudden as soon as a Democrat is elected President. 

Dito with the U.S. national debt all of a sudden being a problem.

Even before Trump, the Republican party has no interest in governance, just culture wars and obstruction no matter hoe much it harms the country. 


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Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

You don’t have much credibility to lose, but you can’t even spell Zelensky (or Zelenskyy/or Zelenskiy)properly.
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

As opposed to the freedom fighting regime of Putin who are showering Europe with strawberries and cream. 

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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

As opposed to the freedom fighting regime of Putin who are showering Europe with strawberries and cream. 

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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

[QUOTE=irishmufc][QUOTE=TRV]Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

As opposed to the freedom fighting regime of Putin who are showering Europe with strawberries and cream. 

Who said anything about putin,  you trying to play  up to your cronies on here,you not think the War mongering and promotion of conflict in Europe by a US administration is a bit odd? 
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

[QUOTE=irishmufc][QUOTE=TRV]Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

As opposed to the freedom fighting regime of Putin who are showering Europe with strawberries and cream. 

Who said anything about putin,  you trying to play  up to your cronies on here,you not think the War mongering and promotion of conflict in Europe by a US administration is a bit odd? 

My cronies?! 

Didn't even know I had that much sway on here LOL
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

[QUOTE=irishmufc][QUOTE=TRV]Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

As opposed to the freedom fighting regime of Putin who are showering Europe with strawberries and cream. 

Who said anything about putin,  you trying to play  up to your cronies on here,you not think the War mongering and promotion of conflict in Europe by a US administration is a bit odd? 

You posts on Ukraine regularly include criticisms of Zelenskyy. You do realise Russia unilaterally invaded Ukraine, right?
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

[QUOTE=TRV]Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

You don’t have much credibility to lose, but you can’t even spell Zelensky (or Zelenskyy/or Zelenskiy)properly.
Could not care less what the Corporate Criminal name is spelt, you are nothing but a shill for US/UK  hegemony,  you were nowhere  to be seen on the onslaught on the Palestinians,  from  children right up to Red Cross/crescent,  UN workers . At home all you  can say  is we must accept MSM version of events,  all we deserve is crumbs off the table, a shoneen tory boy
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

[QUOTE=TRV]Biden ain't nothing but a front for a war mongering regime, this US destabilising of Europe and the Middle East needs to end, the world can see now the US policy of supporting and arming the thug state of Israel,  the prolonged support of the criminal regime of zelenski that the US in this current regime have nothing but destruction to offer this world

You don’t have much credibility to lose, but you can’t even spell Zelensky (or Zelenskyy/or Zelenskiy)properly.
Could not care less what the Corporate Criminal name is spelt, you are nothing but a shill for US/UK  hegemony,  you were nowhere  to be seen on the onslaught on the Palestinians,  from  children right up to Red Cross/crescent,  UN workers . At home all you  can say  is we must accept MSM version of events,  all we deserve is crumbs off the table, a shoneen tory boy

Repeat after me, Russia unilaterally invaded Ukraine.
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Repeat after me , what  is the  extent of US involvement in Ukraine,  what is their history  of recruitment of SS operatives after WW2,what is their involvement in western Ukraine politics since 89, what is their involvement in death squads in every part of Ukraine, Wtf was John Macain doing there I 2010, what reason  have the US to constantly use Ukraine as a vehicle to confront 
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Repeat after me , what  is the  extent of US involvement in Ukraine,  what is their history  of recruitment of SS operatives after WW2,what is their involvement in western Ukraine politics since 89, what is their involvement in death squads in every part of Ukraine, Wtf was John Macain doing there I 2010, what reason  have the US to constantly use Ukraine as a vehicle to confront 

Why would I repeat a series of questions? Presumably ones which you think explain Russia unilateral and imperial invasion.
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Originally posted by TRV TRV wrote:

Repeat after me , what  is the  extent of US involvement in Ukraine,  what is their history  of recruitment of SS operatives after WW2,what is their involvement in western Ukraine politics since 89, what is their involvement in death squads in every part of Ukraine, Wtf was John Macain doing there I 2010, what reason  have the US to constantly use Ukraine as a vehicle to confront 
Even if that's true it's 10 times more ****ish of Russia to take the bait. 

In reality though they wanted a puppet state like Belarus and when that failed they tried the good old colonial conquest method. But yeah America is the bad guy here.
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