U.S Politics

It doesn’t impact them in the same way as it will disproportionately impact the disadvantaged in the USA, or the marginalised. Worst of all, they have gaslight some of the most impoverished people in the US to believe that Trump and his pals are ‘on their side.’ But that won’t impact Irish people shilling for Trump. Just like we have a bunch of people in Ireland forgetting their own history and siding with Russia (or at least Russian narrative) in Russia’s efforts to subjugate and wipe Ukraine off the map.

Where did I say that?

Seen as trump never denied the presence of Covid, I can only presume that it’s a lazy term to throw at those that recognised that Covid was a “thing”, in the exact same way as a cold/flu is a “thing”, but didn’t buy into the whole maud Flanders’s/ restriction/ masks ott reaction to it

So are you able to tell us what a covid denier is so?

You're not able to bring much to the table here so far....

Going back on topic re American politics, its a sad state of affairs when the last presidential election was a choice between sleepy Joe and trump. I know an American couple who are about 50, ex army, who both work in a hospital now (and both nearly lost their jobs for refusing to get vaccinated - their point was that they saw every day first hand in the hospital what was happening, saw people been given an official cause of death as "covid" when reality was different, etc).

 Anyway, they were both very vocal democrats all their lives up until a few years ago. Last election, they begrudgingly voted for trump and first time ever voting non democrat (despite thinking he's a bit of a head banger , but still better than joe), and find themselves veering more to right by way of default as the left go too far on things.

We give out about our own politicans but genuinely believe we've a better calibre of people than Boris or trump (which is worrying when you consider the population of both countries)

But in a nutshell, they view the left as going way too far to the otherside now compared onba number of issues to where it was a number of years ago. Based on what points, that's up to them, but very interesting listening to them about how they see america/ society changing.

Easy for us to have an opinion on Americans views watching cnn and fox though, isn't it?

Re Biden v trump, I thibk they're both rubbish. Trump is someone who is off his head and is a loose canon - Biden is far too old, can barely stay awake at key moment and as said above health is questionable. To have the 2 of them as the option to lead a country the size of America is mental

I genuinely don’t know who I’d vote for myself as I think they’re both rubbish. I’d have serious concerns about both their heads to be honest! Biden would probably be seen as the “safer” option. But again, it’s comes back to the point that it’s a sad state of American politics when it was a choice between those two 

We are talking about a country who thinks nationalised health care and abortion is woke and communism. What is even the point engaging in the politics of these nutjobs. USA is amazing in many respects, but politically it is too far gone 

Well said, and that is with the context of a 4 year Trump Presidency, and what unfolded in the aftermath. There is a cadre of his supporters that are genuinely dangerous and not exclusively in terms of their voting intentions. Insurrection, sedition, treachery. The whole gambit. His proxies like Low IQ-Anon (MTG) are now supposed ‘patriots’ batting for Russia. Yes, so extreme in their ideology that they are now backing American enemies. At one time the Clinton/Trump false equivalence seemed misplaced. Now it’s just blatantly wrong. In short supporting Trump means ‘I’m so pro-America that I’m anti-America.’

It’s worth reading the sad story in a California where a shop owner was shot over a row over an LGBTQ+ flag. The shooter was vehemently against the cause. Their values and opinions are so incredibly warped that their opposition to the cause and a dispute led to them fatally opening fire on somebody else.

Says the the lad who swallowed JD😂