U.S Politics

It's going to be very weird and extremely eerie around DC today for Inauguration Day. a crazy sign of the times when you consider that anywhere between 700,000 and 1.8million people at a time have attended over the last couple of events. 

Latest word on Trump is that he's considering setting up a new party called the Patriot party. If he did, supposing he isn't banned from public office via impeachment- something Mitch McConnell is thought to support-he would attract the glassy-eyed cult followers, racist loons, etc that don't normally vote and make up the MAGA base, thus shafting the Republican Party, which was never more than a vehicle of convenience anyway. Good news for the Democrats for the foreseeable future with the splits in the right wing vote. Re the list of pardons, Steve Bannon is probably the worst of a fairly horrific bunch but he could still be shafted. The pardon only covers federal crimes but what Bannon did-ripping off Trump supporters in a ' Build The Wall' online scam-is still likely to leave him open to multiple state charges for financial crime and multiple civil lawsuits. All good fun. I've got the Guinness in for the day's inauguration coverage , pity Joe's favourite band the Chieftains couldn't take up the invitation to perform due to the travel restrictions. Enjoy the covfefe, y'all !

What Trump has done to America is evident by the amount of security we're seeing on TV. My mate has backed Biden to mention Yates at 20/1 and is now down to 5/1! 

There could well be a split in the Democrats too. They are getting further and further from their traditional base. I think appointing Harris papered over some cracks, but four years of bland centrist liberalism is only going to do Trump good. I hope Joe proves me wrong.

Im not sure there will be a split when the Dems have control. Biden won a fairly comprehensive victory last year in the primaries, and then won a comprehensive victory in the run off. I even see that there are 17 new GOP congresspeople suggesting they are willing to work with Biden. He also was able to get a fairly broad level of support from key progressives who took the view that getting Biden elected was of cardinal importance. In short, for the sake of the win, the Democrats are the party of Biden and Harris.

That is a fair point. And I'm sure Biden was not everybody's cup of tea. Another factor will undoubtedly be who the GOP put up.

Will Joe run again in 4 years? He’d be 82 then or does Kamala get the nod? 

irishmufc wrote: Apparently Trump left a note for Biden. Would love to know what was in it

Het-field wrote: pre Madonna wrote: Very much so, but if Trump is going to take the fascist fringe, it leaves the GOP back as the party of the ultra-conservatives and then it becomes about which way the Democrats go and liberals always go further right. That's why I think a split in one will lead to a split in the other. My real hope is that my hunch that Trump is too lazy, is correct. Having a little fiefdom in the established GOP is one thing. Having to actually establish and lead a political movement, in a country dominated by the two party system, is another. And over a 4 year period, I don't think Trump has shown any of the intellect, or the resilience, to establish a new party, which will united fascists, militia men, QAnon supporters, and the rest of the "deplorables". The gradual de-platforming could also be exceptionally useful in depriving him of the airtime he needs, in order to be successful. Also, he will have very few friends in the GOP, who will bat for him now. There are little vestiges of Trump left. The "anti-squad" congresspeople like Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Greene will fill that space and serve as a reminder, but they are limited, and will not be taken seriously. I won't count my chickens but in an ideal world, this defeat essential ends Trump. I think there is a chance that "boring politics" will be back on the table, if Trump is off it.

Edited by irishmufc - 20 Jan 2021 at 8:10pm