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Tippbiffo 
Liam Brady 
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It's been a great group for drama and excitment. It's going to come down to the very last match I fear. A win for Poland I pray just to give us a chance.
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valo88
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Posted: 08 Sep 2015 at 5:27pm |
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Im going for a draw, f**k it, id rather we go out guns blazing than go out in a play-off.
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085immersive
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Posted: 08 Sep 2015 at 5:32pm |
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Sorry for the repost!
Everybody is hoping for a Poland win. The safe bet! I hope Scotland draw with or beat Poland.
We draw against Germany and Poland/Scotland is a draw. We go into the last game with Poland on 18, Ireland on 16 and Scotland on 12. We have the safety of a play off place which means we have nothing to lose and go all out for the win in Poland that will give us that second spot. This is the ideal scenario. We draw against Germany and Scotland beat Poland. We go into the last game with Poland on 17, Ireland on 16 and Scotland on 14. The Scots are guaranteed 3 points so finish on 17. Do or die, all or nothing for us. We beat Poland and we go through automatically. We draw or lose and we are out. The beauty of football. I would prefer to take the chance of going through automatically or finishing fourth to hoping for Poland knocking Scotland out of the equation and we ending up needing less points to finish in a play off position. Our history in play offs is not good. So we need a draw or even better that elusive win against a big nation against Germany. A draw is certainly possible. That said it is as likely going by recent history that we lose the Germany and get one point against Poland. I fear that fans/media will overhype Poland in the lead up to the last match which we always do with teams similar to us. We have played them a few times in the last few years and we are evenly matched. Their position in the table does not lie, they have performed better than us or Scotland but all three countries are the same ability wise. Edited by 085immersive - 08 Sep 2015 at 5:38pm |
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085immersive
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Posted: 08 Sep 2015 at 5:34pm |
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This. This is what I was trying to say
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Posted: 08 Sep 2015 at 5:46pm |
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The Germans were happy with a point in Croker in 2007. Here's hoping they'll be happy with one again
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Time To Get Behind Mick & The Team
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GB 1HughJarse
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Posted: 08 Sep 2015 at 8:59pm |
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Bon Jovi have no place on this forum....or anywhere for that matter. Of course it will come down to the last match....that's the way we do it😰
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Posted: 08 Sep 2015 at 11:05pm |
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Poland win, hands down, get to a playoff and worry then. Poland in our last game needing some sort of a result would be worse than a 2 leg game against the teams we could possibly draw in a playoff at the moment.
Poland win, and we go for a party in Warsaw,
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Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 11:36am |
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Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 11:39am |
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Scotland's Harry Ramsden's moment ?
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Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 1:35pm |
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Poland win, hands down
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085immersive
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Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 3:35pm |
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If ourselves and Poland end up on 19 points who wins the head to head?
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Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 3:40pm |
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Poland to hammer them. Asking for a scottish win is madness.
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SuperDave84
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Well, given that the only way Poland can get to 19 is by drawing both their games, that implies we would have to beat Germany and draw with them. If that happens, it goes to head to head. We would have 2 points each. Then head to head goal difference. Square. Then head to head away goals. We lose unless we draw 3-3 or higher out there. If we draw 2-2, it goes to overall goal difference. We would likely lose on that count unless we beat Germany 11-0. If we draw 1-1 or 0-0 it doesn't matter if we beat Germany 15-0, we lose out on away goals. This all assumes Germany don't lose to Georgia. If we all end up level on 19 points (i.e. we beat Germany and draw with Poland, Poland draw both games and Germany lose both games) then, on head to head points, we would have 6 (1W, 3D, 0L), Poland 5 (1W, 2D, 1L) and Germany 4(1W, 1D, 2L) and we would top the group with Poland second and Germany in the playoffs.
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pre Madonna
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Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 3:57pm |
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In such a scenario, a two all draw would qualify us Dave
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Posted: 09 Sep 2015 at 8:33pm |
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I have changed my mind. I originally voted for a Poland victory. However upon reflection why would we want to qualify for a tournament due to our rivals imploding and us not having played well at all. We haven't played well against the weaker teams not to mention the better teams. When we see Wales and NI beating teams ranked above them, you feel they deserve to qualify. So far we have done nothing that would make one say we deserve to qualify. Beating Poland in Warsaw and qualifying automatically would change that!
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magnumpi
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Posted: 10 Sep 2015 at 11:11am |
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Germans would be happy with a point against us as it guarantees them automatic qualifying.
plus, it would give us a free crack at the poles (assuming they draw with Scotland) for the 2nd place, which would also help Germany. No idea why people are writing the German game off as a loss. Definitely a draw there for the taking.
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GB 1HughJarse
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Posted: 16 Sep 2015 at 9:57am |
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Scotland are poor, Poland are the better side, would gladly take a playoff now. However it would be a bonus if we matched their result so as to give us a chance of automatic qualification in Warsaw. But to be a seeded team for playoffs we need some result from both matches, otherwise we'll have a playoff against Russia/Sweden/Netherlands/Turkey/Ukraine
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