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So seeing as most think British comedy is better thank American comedy, I'll go with an unpopular opinion and say American comedy.

Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Veep, US Office, Arrested Development are my go-to comedies these days, can't think of anything out of Britain in the past 20 years that I'd watch (apart from Inbetweeners).
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The US Office is dreadful. That Philadelphia sh*te isn't much better, even De Vito couldn't rescue it.
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I really enjoyed the US ShamelessEmbarrassed
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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

I really enjoyed the US ShamelessEmbarrassed
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Just making controversial things up for the sake of it now LOL

Absolutely no one enjoyed that! I mean wtf was it.
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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

I really enjoyed the US ShamelessEmbarrassed
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Macy was excellent in it! I hate American comedy,have no idea why I liked it!
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Was it supposed to be funny? I know the original was, but it felt like the Americans didn't realise that!
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Even the original became very stale in the last 2 series. I can't imagine how unbearable the American one would of been
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

So seeing as most think British comedy is better thank American comedy, I'll go with an unpopular opinion and say American comedy.

Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Veep, US Office, Arrested Development are my go-to comedies these days, can't think of anything out of Britain in the past 20 years that I'd watch (apart from Inbetweeners).

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Are you really suggesting the US Office is superior to the original one?! LOL

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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Even the original became very stale in the last 2 series. I can't imagine how unbearable the American one would of been
Yeah, I can't remember when I stopped watching it, but the stories were becoming more and more ridiculous. 

I actually think that is the biggest problem with US sitcoms in that they are made solely for commercial success, so even the really good ones go on too long and turn into soap operas. That was certainly the case with ' Frasier' and 'The Simpsons' has no had more bad seasons than good, presumably. 
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US office is a surprisingly good showClap 
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

So seeing as most think British comedy is better thank American comedy, I'll go with an unpopular opinion and say American comedy.

Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Veep, US Office, Arrested Development are my go-to comedies these days, can't think of anything out of Britain in the past 20 years that I'd watch (apart from Inbetweeners).

Peep Show 
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Are you really suggesting the US Office is superior to the original one?! LOL

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There has been some brilliantly written sitcoms over the past 20 years. 

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Us comedy tends to try have a heart to it with some sort of soap opera element to it.  Seinfeld and curb yout enthusiasm being exceptions.   British comedy doesnt tend to have heart to it again there are exceptions like only fools and horses.  

The US office is the perfect example of this.  It is far more character based than it's original.   The British shows dont try to make their characters 3 dimensional or realistic.  


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Yeah, very true. I think that is down to the audience. In Britain they try to make something for people who want to laugh, but the main aim isn't to have a smash hit.
It's just a different way of looking at making a sitcom. I think the fact that so many of the successful comedies in the states, certainly those I enjoy the least, are often made my the same few production companies make it predictable. Three dimensional characters and formulaic situations generally leads to fairly bland comedy, but much easier to sell as primetime family viewing to major networks. 
I'm sure that there has been plenty of more talented and funny writers and producers in the States, but they don't make it on to the major networks and therefore never seen over here. That might be slowly changing given how we watch television now.

The best comedy characters are definitely two dimensional. I always reckon that if Basil Fawlty was American and ran a motel in Tampa we would have had a full breakdown of his mental illness and we would be feeling sorry for him.

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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

So seeing as most think British comedy is better thank American comedy, I'll go with an unpopular opinion and say American comedy.

Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Veep, US Office, Arrested Development are my go-to comedies these days, can't think of anything out of Britain in the past 20 years that I'd watch (apart from Inbetweeners).

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Are you really suggesting the US Office is superior to the original one?! LOL

Full disclosure, I saw the American one before the British one so probably didn;t see them in the same order you did. I think whichever you saw second was going to seem like a copy. But yeah I loved the US one, some great characters and scenes.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

So seeing as most think British comedy is better thank American comedy, I'll go with an unpopular opinion and say American comedy.

Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Veep, US Office, Arrested Development are my go-to comedies these days, can't think of anything out of Britain in the past 20 years that I'd watch (apart from Inbetweeners).

Peep Show 
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Royle Family

Are you really suggesting the US Office is superior to the original one?! LOL

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Black Books
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Still Game
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The Detectorists
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Uncle
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Don't Forget the Driver
Friday Night Dinner(divisive, but I love it)
Outnumbered (same)
Mongrels
Ideal
Extras

There has been some brilliantly written sitcoms over the past 20 years. 

Extras is the only one of those I've seen.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

So seeing as most think British comedy is better thank American comedy, I'll go with an unpopular opinion and say American comedy.

Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Veep, US Office, Arrested Development are my go-to comedies these days, can't think of anything out of Britain in the past 20 years that I'd watch (apart from Inbetweeners).

Peep Show 
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Royle Family

Are you really suggesting the US Office is superior to the original one?! LOL

Full disclosure, I saw the American one before the British one so probably didn;t see them in the same order you did. I think whichever you saw second was going to seem like a copy. But yeah I loved the US one, some great characters and scenes.
The one that was a deliberate copy was always going to seem like the copy.LOL
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Us comedy tends to try have a heart to it with some sort of soap opera element to it.  Seinfeld and curb yout enthusiasm being exceptions.   British comedy doesnt tend to have heart to it again there are exceptions like only fools and horses.  

The US office is the perfect example of this.  It is far more character based than it's original.   The British shows dont try to make their characters 3 dimensional or realistic.  
Yer wan Stefanie Preissner was on Off The Ball of all shows lately claiming that the US Office was better than the real version because the US version had characters "you could identify with and that it gave you a sense of hope". She could barely have misunderstood the point of The Office more. 

I didn't watch The Office because I wanted character development or to empathise with the characters or to get a sense of "hope" or "aspiration". I wanted jokes, I wanted laughs, I wanted toe curlingly cringe inducing and embarrassing moments, I wanted a devastating skewering of Brexit Britain, before Brexit Britain existed (well it existed in 2002, it just didn't know it yet and we didn't knoww what to call it). 
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