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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.

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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.


So you take drugs like all the other cyclists?

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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

So anyway Baggio,

Pep is a drug cheat, failed test and banned - fact
One of his doctors at Barcelona was banned from sport for life for drug violations - fact
City had 3 doping violations in his first 6 months in charge - fact

Would you like to discuss this and give your opinion on it, or would you rather continue on like it never happened?

The fact you keep coming into this thread might mean there's a bit of hope for you yet
 
The only thing City related there is your third point. Pep as a player, and who one of his doctors was in a previous job aren't really relevant to City today.
 
Was City's fine not for admin errors, not filing properly, and not notifying of players whereabouts. So when the dopers arrived the players weren't at the training ground? (Like the Sanchez incident last week)
 
You said yourself last week that it doesn't matter how many tests they do, as Lance Armstrong never failed a single drugs test, so why would they be avoiding the drug testers?
 
The fact I keep coming onto this thread is because I'm very bored in work these days and am on most threads.
 
 


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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.


So you take drugs like all the other cyclists?

To be fair to Shoco, I would be absolutely stupefied if there was even one top-level athlete who was 100% clean, in any major sport.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.


So you take drugs like all the other cyclists?



Nope, I don't take drugs for performance enhancing reasons.
Even as an amateur i must obey the anti doping laws set by Cycling Ireland.
I have never actually been tested, I have also never won a race either.

I have no doubt though there are amateur cyclists taking PED's

Why do you like athletics?

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

So anyway Baggio,

Pep is a drug cheat, failed test and banned - fact
One of his doctors at Barcelona was banned from sport for life for drug violations - fact
City had 3 doping violations in his first 6 months in charge - fact

Would you like to discuss this and give your opinion on it, or would you rather continue on like it never happened?

The fact you keep coming into this thread might mean there's a bit of hope for you yet
 
The only thing City related there is your third point. Pep as a player, and who one of his doctors was in a previous job aren't really relevant to City today.
 
Was City's fine not for admin errors, not filing properly, and not notifying of players whereabouts. So when the dopers arrived the players weren't at the training ground? (Like the Sanchez incident last week)
 
You said yourself last week that it doesn't matter how many tests they do, as Lance Armstrong never failed a single drugs test, so why would they be avoiding the drug testers?
 
The fact I keep coming onto this thread is because I'm very bored in work these days and am on most threads.
 
 


So you don't think it's city's problem if they hire a known cheat?

Lance did fail a test but it was hushed up



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Don't think I've ever disliked a Manager as much as Pep.

He's a baldy egomaniac drug cheating control freak with his arrogant arse Stone Island jacket on.
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Don't think I've ever disliked a Manager as much as Pep.
He's a baldy egomaniac drug cheating control freak with his arrogant arse Stone Island jacket on.
 
He'll be totally gutted to hear
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.


So you take drugs like all the other cyclists?



Nope, I don't take drugs for performance enhancing reasons.
Even as an amateur i must obey the anti doping laws set by Cycling Ireland.
I have never actually been tested, I have also never won a race either.

I have no doubt though there are amateur cyclists taking PED's

Why do you like athletics?


Have you ever taken a lemsip or Neurofen Cold and Flu or any of those type of products? if you have then you are a drugs cheat.

Why do you like athletics? I like all the different disciplines, primarily the field events and shorter track events.


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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

Don't think I've ever disliked a Manager as much as Pep.
He's a baldy egomaniac drug cheating control freak with his arrogant arse Stone Island jacket on.

 
He'll be totally gutted to hear
he’ll be particlulallry upset to find out what being bald has to do with the price of bread.
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.


So you take drugs like all the other cyclists?



Nope, I don't take drugs for performance enhancing reasons.
Even as an amateur i must obey the anti doping laws set by Cycling Ireland.
I have never actually been tested, I have also never won a race either.

I have no doubt though there are amateur cyclists taking PED's

Why do you like athletics?


Have you ever taken a lemsip or Neurofen Cold and Flu or any of those type of products? if you have then you are a drugs cheat.

Why do you like athletics? I like all the different disciplines, primarily the field events and shorter track events.




Believe it or not, I don't believe taken either of those products you mentioned, ever!! Not in my racing days anyway

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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.


So you take drugs like all the other cyclists?



Nope, I don't take drugs for performance enhancing reasons.
Even as an amateur i must obey the anti doping laws set by Cycling Ireland.
I have never actually been tested, I have also never won a race either.

I have no doubt though there are amateur cyclists taking PED's

Why do you like athletics?


Have you ever taken a lemsip or Neurofen Cold and Flu or any of those type of products? if you have then you are a drugs cheat.

Why do you like athletics? I like all the different disciplines, primarily the field events and shorter track events.




Believe it or not, I don't believe taken either of those products you mentioned, ever!! Not in my racing days anyway


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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Shoco, if you are so concerned and interested in drugs in sport why the f**k are you following cycling.


Why not?  It's no different than any other sport when it comes to drugs, they just test more and catch more.

You could also ask me why do I follow football if I have an interest in drugs in sport.

I could ask why do you have an interest in athletics with all the problems in it, yet seem to sl*g of cycling?

I also happen to be a cyclist, and I race.


So you take drugs like all the other cyclists?



Nope, I don't take drugs for performance enhancing reasons.
Even as an amateur i must obey the anti doping laws set by Cycling Ireland.
I have never actually been tested, I have also never won a race either.

I have no doubt though there are amateur cyclists taking PED's

Why do you like athletics?


Have you ever taken a lemsip or Neurofen Cold and Flu or any of those type of products? if you have then you are a drugs cheat.

Why do you like athletics? I like all the different disciplines, primarily the field events and shorter track events.




Believe it or not, I don't believe taken either of those products you mentioned, ever!! Not in my racing days anyway




Not sure what the shock is?

lemsip is not banned, neurofen is not banned, at least out of competition anyway

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Unless they changed the ingredients of both products, they did have an ingredient on the WADA blacklist.

Phenylephrine

https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/default/files/prohibited_list_2018_en.pdf

These substances are included in the 2018 Monitoring Program.

Again, this list is dynamic.

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It depends on which lists you look at, I looked at a global list earlier and both were ok.

http://www.globaldro.com/Home

No way I could ask if you have ever played football, and if so was it with an officiated fai/gaa team?
I'm sure plenty on here do or have done in the past. Would you consider them/yourself a drugs cheat?

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Would you consider them/yourself a drugs cheat?


100% yes. I've taken drugs for medical purposes.

But I'm not on here with sweeping statements saying every sport is on drugs etc...

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What sports do you believe are clean?

I'm not referring to lads taking a lemsip for a head cold as not clean just to be clear!

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