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Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

Well done SGB point proven!

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Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Originally posted by ShayGivensBum ShayGivensBum wrote:

Now im confused. Am I right or what?
 
Ya you are right SGB. There are almost no exceptions except words used in English that are directly taken from another (usually middle eastern) language and Qwerty which is a very modern invention.

Sadly there are exceptions, so the old fable that q is followed by u is busted.
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Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Originally posted by ShayGivensBum ShayGivensBum wrote:

Now im confused. Am I right or what?

 
Ya you are right SGB. There are almost no exceptions except words used in English that are directly taken from another (usually middle eastern) language and Qwerty which is a very modern invention.


love to be pedantic here, but every word in English comes from another language, like most modern languages. The reason English is such a great language is it's diversity, taking words from anglo saxon and latin , including using suffixes from bot linguistic backgrounds to create very different words. Think horrid, horrible, horrific for example as well as picking up words from all the countries they have raped and pillaged from sshenanigans to pyjamas. Also, as far as I can recall, many of the questions (I believe originally spelt qwestion) such as whixh and what were written as qhich qhat. They probably evolved to fit that rule of thumb, rather than the other way around
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Originally posted by ShayGivensBum ShayGivensBum wrote:

Now im confused. Am I right or what?

 
Ya you are right SGB. There are almost no exceptions except words used in English that are directly taken from another (usually middle eastern) language and Qwerty which is a very modern invention.


love to be pedantic here, but every word in English comes from another language, like most modern languages. The reason English is such a great language is it's diversity, taking words from anglo saxon and latin , including using suffixes from bot linguistic backgrounds to create very different words. Think horrid, horrible, horrific for example as well as picking up words from all the countries they have raped and pillaged from sshenanigans to pyjamas. Also, as far as I can recall, many of the questions (I believe originally spelt qwestion) such as whixh and what were written as qhich qhat. They probably evolved to fit that rule of thumb, rather than the other way around
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Originally posted by ShayGivensBum ShayGivensBum wrote:

Now im confused. Am I right or what?

 
Ya you are right SGB. There are almost no exceptions except words used in English that are directly taken from another (usually middle eastern) language and Qwerty which is a very modern invention.


love to be pedantic here, but every word in English comes from another language, like most modern languages. The reason English is such a great language is it's diversity, taking words from anglo saxon and latin , including using suffixes from bot linguistic backgrounds to create very different words. Think horrid, horrible, horrific for example as well as picking up words from all the countries they have raped and pillaged from sshenanigans to pyjamas. Also, as far as I can recall, many of the questions (I believe originally spelt qwestion) such as whixh and what were written as qhich qhat. They probably evolved to fit that rule of thumb, rather than the other way around
 
I understand language evolves, I guess it depends on when one believes a word becomes an "English word". Like the word burqa is obviously a well understood word in English but is it an English word like pineapple? (I know it can also be spelt burka).
 
 
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Originally posted by ShayGivensBum ShayGivensBum wrote:

I feel like I could take over the world now Big smileClap


Start with Qatar and work your way from there.

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Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Flanno7hi Flanno7hi wrote:

Originally posted by ShayGivensBum ShayGivensBum wrote:

Now im confused. Am I right or what?

 
Ya you are right SGB. There are almost no exceptions except words used in English that are directly taken from another (usually middle eastern) language and Qwerty which is a very modern invention.


love to be pedantic here, but every word in English comes from another language, like most modern languages. The reason English is such a great language is it's diversity, taking words from anglo saxon and latin , including using suffixes from bot linguistic backgrounds to create very different words. Think horrid, horrible, horrific for example as well as picking up words from all the countries they have raped and pillaged from sshenanigans to pyjamas. Also, as far as I can recall, many of the questions (I believe originally spelt qwestion) such as whixh and what were written as qhich qhat. They probably evolved to fit that rule of thumb, rather than the other way around

 
I understand language evolves, I guess it depends on when one believes a word becomes an "English word". Like the word burqa is obviously a well understood word in English but is it an English word like pineapple? (I know it can also be spelt burka).
 
 
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Excellent work Flanno

I would also argue about pineapple being a truly 'English ' word. Pineapples first entered European vocabulary from Colombus on return from America. He called them Pina de Indes , or pine cone of the indies.
I just Googled, it appears pine cones were referred to as pineapples prior to the fruit, which was originally called ananas in English too. It is quite an interesting word.
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It has evolved from anglo saxon or old English, to daeg or on this day and would imagine just evolved into a hyphenated word and then one word. There are a few like that, goodnight and goodbye for example.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

 
.... it appears pine cones were referred to as pineapples prior to the fruit, which was originally called ananas in English too. It is quite an interesting word.

It's etymology & application would appear almost Universal then, even as Gaeilge "anann" (noun) or "píosa anainn" (a slice of pineapple), originally from "Ananas" and also could be used in reference to Kournikova, the tennis player.
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Eh sorry but im totally lost now.

Anyway I was right in the end. You cant have a q without a u after it Thumbs Up
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