We’re not Brasil we’re Tuaisceart Éireann

Terrence is just a contrarian who will just argue for the sake of it.  I have a feeling its Jim Allister.

horsebox wrote: We all know that that FAI approach or have been approached by players who have a realistic chance of playing for us. Terry knows this but is being disingenuous about it.

Territorial wrote: Trap junior wrote: Terrence is just a contrarian who will just argue for the sake of it.  I have a feeling its Jim Allister. So you've now gone from "playing the ball" (or trying to), to "playing the man". Inevitable, I guess.

Territorial wrote: horsebox wrote: We all know that that FAI approach or have been approached by players who have a realistic chance of playing for us. Terry knows this but is being disingenuous about it. The FAI have approached/been approached by loads of youngsters from NI and persuaded them to use their one permitted switch. They then didn't care a jot when those same youngsters didn't to make it to senior level, though might still have made a senior international career with NI were they not now tied. That is the disingenuity in this case, as evidenced eg by Brian Kerr, where he at least had the integrity to advise a young Michael McGovern to throw his lot in with NI. Which changed his life/career, after his performances for us at Euro2016 got him a transfer from Hamilton Academical to Norwich City.

That's the nature of the beast.

There are a number of players in that NI squad who went onto both play in the Euro's and carved out some very good international careers for themselves regardless of their background, who wouldn't have made the cut at the ROI.

You are either good enough or you're not and in most cases it's the latter.

McGinn is a ROI supporter but opted to play for the North and would possibly only have a handful of caps at ROI.

Grealish came through the ROI ranks, and thought the grass would be greener on the other side. Didn't work out that way.

gspain wrote: Alan Kernaghan was the first in the modern era.  He actually wanted to play for NI having grown up in Bangor with IIRC 4 NI born grandparents.  He was born in England but moved back at a young age.  The IFA refused to pick him.  He approached the FAI is my understanding after the IFA truned him down.

Territorial wrote: gspain wrote: Many now view our side as a de facto 32-county All Ireland team.  This was most definitely not the case in 1992 when Alan Kernaghan declared.   Indeed. P.S. I have heard it claimed by one or two deranged individuals that any player from a Unionist background who opted to represent the ROI could "never go home again" (for fear of abuse etc). Kernaghan gives the lie to this, seeing as he later went on to coach at Rangers, before returning to NI to manage East Belfast's finest, Glentoran.

James McClean counters that claim does it not?

Trap junior wrote: Like you say Terrance he had no choice to play for TE so was hardly turning them down.  If a unionist had a choice and opted to play for us there would be uproar. Not that he ever would.

Trap junior wrote: Territorial wrote: Trap junior wrote: Like you say Terrance he had no choice to play for TE so was hardly turning them down.  If a unionist had a choice and opted to play for us there would be uproar. Not that he ever would. Do you think that the sort of meatheads who would threaten players would make such a distinction? You clearly know very little about their type. Besides, when Craig,  Dougan, Hunter and Hamilton played for that "all-Ireland" team vs Brazil in 1973, with Dougan openly advocating making the experiment permanent, not a word was said to any of them. Nor when Best was said to have advocated a single team. Not when Hamilton took on a role with the FAI subsequently. As I said before, you should stick to Roy Keane parodies, it's easy enough when he's virtually a self-parody himself these days and you can discern all you need to know about the subject from the tabloids. Territorial Diaries coming to a YBIG thread near you soon. No need for parodies. Just rehash your posts. You've gone from a unionist declaring for The EIRE to playing for an all island team.  Any unionist who wanted to play for us would be disowned.  As if it would happen anyway but I guess that's sectarian. I'm sure there are black lads who would like to join the KKK. Ah sure I forgot everyone up north is so friendly. I remember how nice they were in Windsor on 17 November 1993.   Sure the lovely Billy Bingham (who loves catholics btw), had a lovely welcome for us.  Was he not whipping up the crowd with his royal wave and encouraging the crowd chanting abuse?  Yes he did.  I'm sure he'd love David Healy, and MON to have played for us instead.