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irishmufc wrote: horsebox wrote: He was joking with your SHH. I wasn't I've zero sympathy for any Irish players that represent N.I. at any level and then moan that they're not to their liking.

If you were 14/15 and trying to become a professional footballer would you not do everything that could help you? Irish lads playing under age for NI then moving to us are doing nothing wrong.

And who said that there are no feeder teams in international football we should be looking at played in the US Canada Oz in years to come

irishmufc wrote: Padraig wrote: irishmufc wrote: horsebox wrote: He was joking with your SHH. I wasn't I've zero sympathy for any Irish players that represent N.I. at any level and then moan that they're not to their liking. If you were 14/15 and trying to become a professional footballer would you not do everything that could help you? Irish lads playing under age for NI then moving to us are doing nothing wrong. To answer your initial question then yes of course I would if I was being professional but going onto the morality of it is a bit daft. I take issue with the fact Irish lads are happy to participate in the N.I. setup and then moan about them not being accomodating enough to their needs when they're potentially using N.I. as a stepping stone into our team's set up. Padraig, I couldn't imagine you having the same liberal attitude if the roles were reversed tbh.

You're the one that brought up 'principles' when you had a go at SHH!

Young players want to play at the highest level, if they are not being scouted or getting called up by our teams then they have every right to play for the north.  It's not as if they know when they play for them at U16/18 that they are eventually going to play for our senior team.




Edited by Padraig - 19 Mar 2017 at 9:58pm

irishmufc wrote: Padraig wrote: irishmufc wrote: Padraig wrote: irishmufc wrote: horsebox wrote: He was joking with your SHH. I wasn't I've zero sympathy for any Irish players that represent N.I. at any level and then moan that they're not to their liking. If you were 14/15 and trying to become a professional footballer would you not do everything that could help you? Irish lads playing under age for NI then moving to us are doing nothing wrong. To answer your initial question then yes of course I would if I was being professional but going onto the morality of it is a bit daft. I take issue with the fact Irish lads are happy to participate in the N.I. setup and then moan about them not being accomodating enough to their needs when they're potentially using N.I. as a stepping stone into our team's set up. Padraig, I couldn't imagine you having the same liberal attitude if the roles were reversed tbh. You're the one that brought up 'principles' when you had a go at SHH! Young players want to play at the highest level, if they are not being scouted or getting called up by our teams then they have every right to play for the north.  It's not as if they know when they play for them at U16/18 that they are eventually going to play for our senior team.   They can play for the north all they want but then they're complaining that the IFA aren't inclusive enough towards them. If you feel that way play for the ROI who are more representative. If you feel the IFA are the only chance of getting international football well then you just have to accept all that goes with it. There are choices here.   And it's hard to blame the north being angry about players using their underage set up to then declare for ROI. We'd be the first ones up in arms if the roles were reversed.

Thank you, Irishmufc.

When I make that point, I get the "bitter bigot" treatment from the Usual Suspects, but they can't use those tactics with you. (Though a few more such posts and you'll qualify for your "West Brit Medal"! ).

Meanwhile, it's not just a point of principle.

As I said earlier, FAI coaches are making all sorts of promises and inducements to young NI kids and their parents to get them to switch.

But at the same time, they know that as a matter of simple numbers, any given player has much less of a chance of making it with ROI than with NI, but will still be excluded from reverting to NI, since only one switch is permitted.

And what makes this worse is that they don't need to do anything to attract the more Nationalist-minded kids, since they'll likely be making the first approach to the FAI anyhow. Instead, it's kids who don't have any particular political leanings, or who might even have veered towards NI anyway, who get taken advantage of.

And do the FAI give a f**k?

Do they bollox!


Edited by Territorial - 20 Mar 2017 at 1:52pm

SByrne24 wrote: And long may it continue. 44%.

"FAIL"

(The Pass Mark is 50% +1)



Edited by Territorial - 20 Mar 2017 at 2:18pm

Fairplay a minutes silence at the Crusaders v Ballinamallard for Ryan McBride live on sky now.

irishmufc wrote: Padraig wrote: irishmufc wrote: horsebox wrote: He was joking with your SHH. I wasn't I've zero sympathy for any Irish players that represent N.I. at any level and then moan that they're not to their liking. If you were 14/15 and trying to become a professional footballer would you not do everything that could help you? Irish lads playing under age for NI then moving to us are doing nothing wrong. To answer your initial question then yes of course I would if I was being professional but going onto the morality of it is a bit daft. I take issue with the fact Irish lads are happy to participate in the N.I. setup and then moan about them not being accomodating enough to their needs when they're potentially using N.I. as a stepping stone into our team's set up. Padraig, I couldn't imagine you having the same liberal attitude if the roles were reversed tbh.

gazurtoids wrote: Would O'Neill leave in the Summer for someone like a Leicester ? that win tonight puts them in a great playoff position (how they're doing it with that dogsh*t group of players in a mystery) .....but would he go with just a couple games to go.....a job like Leicester won't come around often to him

ConorMac77 wrote: gazurtoids wrote: Would O'Neill leave in the Summer for someone like a Leicester ? that win tonight puts them in a great playoff position (how they're doing it with that dogsh*t group of players in a mystery) .....but would he go with just a couple games to go.....a job like Leicester won't come around often to him To answer your question about them sitting in a play-off spot with that group of players...the qualifying group group is also dogsh*t! Remember, the Czechs are a shadow of the side they had a decade ago ie no players like Nedved, Rosicky, Baros etc and Norway have recently sacked their manager while the fact that NI were able to thrash Azerbaijan 4-0 tells you all you need to know about them. For the 2nd campaign in a row, NI have been lucky enough to be drawn in a group full of equally ordinary sides. Would have been interesting to see how they would have got in, say, group A...