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SByrne24
Jack Charlton Joined: 11 Nov 2014 Location: Southampton. Status: Offline Points: 7811 |
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+1, As mentioned above i go out with a girl from the South. Her family didnt have a notion what it's like nor did see she until recently, didnt know what a Para's or UVF flag was. Her father told me the peace process had been a roaring success by the looks of things |
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Madferret
Ray Houghton Joined: 09 Jun 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3658 |
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Never give up. Self-awareness and self-education is the key. Compared to 20 years ago when what news was coming out of the North was strictly controlled and filled with bias to protect those in charge North & South, thankfully today we have the internet to find out the real facts that underlay the conflict. You can't be blamed for other's continued ignorance
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JD & Coke
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Do they not teach about it in school these days ? I spose as our windy Taoiseach doesnt even care why would the teachers, Haughey was the last Leader who gave a f**k about trying to get the North back.
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Irish Duke
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 19 May 2015 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 263 |
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Michael Collins has a lot to answer for and yet he is hailed as a hero and genius. Like the our football team really illusions of grandeur while the reality is way different. Irish mentality again for you.
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SByrne24
Jack Charlton Joined: 11 Nov 2014 Location: Southampton. Status: Offline Points: 7811 |
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Vote Gerry in.. He'll care 'An ireland unfree shall never be at peace' - Pearse.
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JD & Coke
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Status: Offline Points: 138 |
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Think il vote sinn fein in nxt election.
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inlikeflynn
500 Club la la la Joined: 29 Oct 2014 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 728 |
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To me, you guys sound just as full of hate as those who you refer to.
There is no doubt that some terrible sh*t had happened up there, but what is the link to the football? I've no doubt that if you asked the allegiance of those who carried out the Omagh bomb that they'd be Ireland fans instead of NI, but I have no reason to feel ashamed for that. I'm bowing out of this one as you seem unable to provide any reason not to cheer on the North of they're in a tournament and we're not. In fact, you have encouraged it. I wonder if, unlike me, anyone of you knows any NI fan. |
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25113 |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25113 |
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Probably because you're a fan of the settler state in Palestine like themselves. Edited by irishmufc - 15 Jun 2015 at 7:51am |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25113 |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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gspain
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I never said they supported us. The majority of their fans see us as rivals now as want us to lose. That includes btw 1 RC NI fan I know. Some actually only want us to win when we play England. More would have wished us well in the 1980's. The player eligibility issues are huge for them and also back then there were very few people north of the border supporting us. Now the vast majority from a nationalist background support us. I know some that still wish us well and some that will openly say they used to but now want us to lose all the time. |
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gspain
Ray Houghton Joined: 21 Apr 2010 Status: Offline Points: 4688 |
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Do you support the association that wanted that then? They play in green with a Celtic Cross on their shirts. When the FAI tried to breakaway they did everything in their power to keep one team. Then for over a quarter of a century they continued to pick an "All Ireland" team until the FAI went to FIFA and forced them to stop. Then 4 years later the FAI had to go back to FIFA to get them to stop using the term "Ireland" and use "Northern Ireland" instead. Although as late as 1978 they still used the term "Ireland" Peter Byrne's excellent official history of the FAI is well worth a read. It shows the battle the association had to even survive in the early years. It may be a bit uncomfortable though for those of a strong nationalist view. |
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SByrne24
Jack Charlton Joined: 11 Nov 2014 Location: Southampton. Status: Offline Points: 7811 |
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Let's see... 1) Neil Lennon - Death threats for being a nationalist playing for Northern Ireland, LVF give him a number of death threats and destroyed his families home. The problem emanated directly from the religious identity of Lennon, a Catholic from Lurgan in County Armagh, who played his club football for Glasgow Celtic, a club directly associated with the Catholic population in the North. For the LVF, and the majority of the Unionist and Loyalist population, the sight of Lennon captaining Northern Ireland on the same pitch where Linfield - a West Belfast football club associated mainly with the Loyalist Protestant community - was unthinkable and needed to be addressed. 2) They continue to chant sectarian songs, one you might be familiar with is.. 'Billy boys' to quote one line from this musical masterpiece 'We're up to our knees in Fenian blood Surrender or you'll die''. Lovely chant. German bombers another chant, Rule Britiannia, the list goes on and on.. To pick up on that Lennon point, for 6 years while he tried to play for that lot they chanted 'We've got a Provo on our team' 3) They hate us. That needs no explanation as anyone with a brain cell could work that out. Their fan base burn our national flag annually, although the odd time the Ivory Coast flag gets it instead. 4) 2008 - David Healy, Flute celebration. To me and most nationalists, that's disgusting and an insult. You're not from this part of the Island,you clearly aren't educated enough to know the history of football and what nationalists have went through in football terms. Did you see the Shamrock Rovers v Linfield game a few seasons back? They're the same men that go to Windsor to get behind 'Norn Iron' i'll pass. I'll be happy to point out more reasons if you need further evidence. I know lots of NI fans, members of my family happen to be fans. They still hate us. Edited by SByrne24 - 15 Jun 2015 at 10:39am |
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JD & Coke
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Gspain lives in fantasy land.
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Newryrep
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Anybody who took offence at that shouldn't be allowed out on their own FFS disgusting and an insult ? jesus wept |
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
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Floreat Ultonia
500 Club la la la Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Location: Dudley, England Status: Offline Points: 733 |
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If your own family hate your obsession, maybe showcasing it on the internet isn't the best idea Chill and invite them out for a beer. Most NI fans see the South as main rival and want you to lose most games. A visible/ audible minority are obviously sectarian, although it's a bit of a stretch to include Healy and the Castlederg boys singing '10 German Bombers' in this (they sat behind me in the Kop and now Railway stand). Irritating but harmless. They're hillbillies on a day out. If we make it to France and you don't, some of your fans will support us (underdog, fellow Irish, whatever), others rally round the others in the group, and a third force will just enjoy the tournament and daydream about which of its stars will sign for Liverpool/ ManU/ Celtic etc. I have no problem with any of these alternatives, if their team isn't there they can choose as they wish. GSpain is one of the best informed fans about both national sides on this board |
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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unsurprisingly it comes from Dublin's greatest contribution to the forum. 100% spot on MF |
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SByrne24
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Newryrep - The twelfth celebrates the killing of catholics. I don't think i need to give you a history lesson, it caused uproar at the time. Just to add, he done it v Celtic. If that isn't sectarian and disgusting then i give up. I am very chilled, I simply outlined the sectarian nature of the supporters of Narnia and using '10 german bombers' is no stretch nor Healy.
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