We’re not Brasil we’re Tuaisceart Éireann

Floreat Ultonia wrote: irishmufc wrote: What good has the statelet of Northern Ireland brought apart from the turmoil of the civil war Whatever you think of NI, blaming it because the effective winners of the Civil War fell out with each other is a bit odd. It's like saying NI fans are responsible for bored Romanian Ultras attacking each other at Windsor on Saturday. The problem with our Irish Unionist chums is they'll always be prepared condemn murderous acts committed by the IRA without trying to address the root causes behind them I understand the "root causes" quite well thanks, not least as a result of being intimidated out of home, school etc. by paramilitarism in the 70s. But you're not really interested in discussing that, preferring to daydream about a time machine taking you back to 1921 or 1169 to change the course of history ;) Northern Ireland as a British statelet should be consigned to the history book. Sadly it won't be in our lifetime and we've to live with partition It suits the majority in the South as you know perfectly well. Get over it.

Why do you think there was a civil war in this country if not for the creation of Northern Ireland?

I've no problem criticising the IRA or any other paramilitary who intimidate,maim or kill innocent people. Even taking the morality out of it, it's counterproductive and only polarises people on both sides even more which further pushes away the chances of reconciliation and unity.

The cause for Irish unity is completely legitimate and logical. It has to be done through the political process off course.

I unfortunately agree with you over this partitionist mindset down here.

irishmufc - You are aware that what is now known as the NI team is actually the original and real Irish football association that dates back some 135 years? Only in very recent history has it even been called Northern Ireland, I still call us Ireland.

Territorial wrote: Newryrep wrote: SB you harp on about Neil Lennon, any thick **** with 20p could of made that call and god know there are enough on the loyalist side, no code word was used AFAIR Lennon by all accounts is quite compleimntry about NI fans in his book -as has been poted here It is dishonest not to acknowledge the strides that they have made in trying to eliminate their sizeable sectarian element Thank you, NR. And for the benefit of SB and a few others, here are some facts on the matter. 1. In the match where NL was booed, it was by a distinct group of around 200(?) on the Kop who, I'm told, were not regulars. (It is thought they were Rangers fans who had made a particular effort to attend that game). And a couple of hundred determined meatheads can make quite a racket in a crowd of a few thousand. 2. For the next NI match, the boo boys were nowhere to be seen; meanwhile, the fans who were there cheered NL's every touch. 3. NL went on to play another 4 or 5 NI games, including at WP, without any problem - it was only when some anonymous sh*thead with a 20p piece phoned in a threat to a newspaper that he decided it wasn't worth the candle and retired (no NI fan blamed him, btw). 4. When in 2007, the IFA were holding a "Football For All" Awards Night, NL was unable to attend, but instead sent a video message which included the following: "Fans..... have made the atmosphere at Northern Ireland football games in recent years the envy of Fans across not only Europe but World Football. From a personal point of view I would like to thank them for their efforts.” 5. This whole episode was 13 years ago. A hell of a lot has changed since then, even if the likes of SByrne and Madferret are still living in the last century... P.S. Are you sure you don't want to return to the fold, NewryRep? Go on, you know you want to...

Return ?????????

I would like to say I wish you all the best territorial but if i am honest I hope youse get stuffed   

Newryrep wrote: SB you harp on about Neil Lennon, any thick **** with 20p could of made that call and god know there are enough on the loyalist side, no code word was used AFAIR Lennon by all accounts is quite compleimntry about NI fans in his book -as has been poted here It is dishonest not to acknowledge the strides that they have made in trying to eliminate their sizeable sectarian element

Thank you, NR.

And for the benefit of SB and a few others, here are some facts on the matter.

1. In the match where NL was booed, it was by a distinct group of around 200(?) on the Kop who, I'm told, were not regulars. (It is thought they were Rangers fans who had made a particular effort to attend that game). And a couple of hundred determined meatheads can make quite a racket in a crowd of a few thousand.

2. For the next NI match, the boo boys were nowhere to be seen; meanwhile, the fans who were there cheered NL's every touch.

3. NL went on to play another 4 or 5 NI games, including at WP, without any problem - it was only when some anonymous sh*thead with a 20p piece phoned in a threat to a newspaper that he decided it wasn't worth the candle and retired (no NI fan blamed him, btw).

4. When in 2007, the IFA were holding a "Football For All" Awards Night, NL was unable to attend, but instead sent a video message which included the following:
"Fans..... have made the atmosphere at Northern Ireland football games in recent years the envy of Fans across not only Europe but World Football. From a personal point of view I would like to thank them for their efforts.”

5. This whole episode was 13 years ago. A hell of a lot has changed since then, even if the likes of SByrne and Madferret are still living in the last century...

P.S. Are you sure you don't want to return to the fold, NewryRep? Go on, you know you want to...

The RAF of Ulster

Just to clarify, that last post is quoted as myself when it was SByrne24

Them un melt down.

Territorial wrote: starryplough wrote: As correctly pointed out by madferret, we have our All Ireland Republic team which incorporates all of the 32 counties and anyone born there, let the bigots have their sash bash in the sewer... That would be the same "madferret" who so loves singing about the people who brought us all Enniskillen, Jean McConville, Garda Gerry McCabe, Kingsmills and the rape and abuse of who-knows-how-many women and children*: http://www.ybig.ie/forum/favourite-rebel-songs-ballads_topic51844_page1.html Meanwhile, some more 'Sash Bash' from Saturday evening in Belfast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhenjaSmoSk&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HLG-dAa-s&feature=youtu.be Bigots, eh? * - And that's just the Adams Family...

Why are you referencing rebs

We can all throw mud at each other if that is what you are looking for..

starryplough wrote: As correctly pointed out by madferret, we have our All Ireland Republic team which incorporates all of the 32 counties and anyone born there, let the bigots have their sash bash in the sewer...

That would be the same "madferret" who so loves singing about the people who brought us all Enniskillen, Jean McConville, Garda Gerry McCabe, Kingsmills and the rape and abuse of who-knows-how-many women and children*:
http://www.ybig.ie/forum/favourite-rebel-songs-ballads_topic51844_page1.html

Meanwhile, some more 'Sash Bash' from Saturday evening in Belfast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhenjaSmoSk&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5HLG-dAa-s&feature=youtu.be

Bigots, eh?





* - And that's just the Adams Family...