Most Hated Team in the Premier League

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 heighway2heaven wrote:

 roverstillidie wrote:

 heighway2heaven wrote:

 roverstillidie wrote:

 horsebox wrote:

Are you actually having a go at the families of those people killed in Hillsborough?

 I am having a go at the Liverpool fans who snuck or forced their way into the Leppings Lane end and refuse to accept that this was one of the contributary factors to the disaster. And they pulled the same trick in Athens at the CL final. 

You haven't a f*cking notion what you're talking about. Not surprised in the slightest you're regarded as a running joke on here.

 And we are off. 

Is your position that thousands of Liverpool fans hopping the styles in the Leppings Lane end was not a factor in overcrowding the terrace?

In fact, don't bother. This will just be the usual 'you are out to get us' whinge that is why I hate Liverpool and their fans.  

Sorry, but you're woefully uninformed on this.

Yes, I'm categorically saying that Liverpool fans didn't hop any turnstyles at Hillsborough. In fact, it's a completely new one on me, so much so you have me scratching my head. Normally it's the 'drunken, ticketless fans forced the gate' angle that usually gets pushed, although these days, only by those it suits to believe.

Neither of those things actually happened though and anyone who's even remotely informed about events that day has known that all along. All this has even been acknowledged as far back as both the Taylor Reports in August '89 and Jan '90, and more recently the HIP report in 2012. Don't know if you saw that one? It was in the news. David Cameron even personally apologised on behalf of the government, both for the events that day and the lies that were told. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mavTTc21sCY

However, as soon as the SYP propagated the lie of drunken ticketless fans on the evening of 15/04/89 and it was reported by the BBC (and pushed by the Sun 4 days later) it became the overriding narrative. That's why the families of the victims fought for a quarter of a century to have these recognised as lies.

Coincidentally, just yesterday at the Hillsborough inquest, the man who claimed the gate had been forced - Chief Superintendent at the time David Duckenfield - admitted fully that he had given the order to open Gate C, again, all stuff that's been known all along. Have a look.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-merseyside-31821211

"Thousands of Liverpool fans hopping the styles" though? New one on me. You can believe what you want, but what you believe couldn't be further away from the actual, acknowledged events of the day. But there ya go, I've "bothered". If you want to take on the facts, that's up to you. There's a million and one places you could start looking, but even about 2 min reading on google should see you good. I suppose, why bother though? Would mess with your narrative, wouldn't it.

 There are other Liverpool fans on this thread who openly acknowledge that the barriers were jumped by fans. You are a parody of yourself. Of course the cops were at fault, who is arguing otherwise? I never mentioned gates being forced, that is a strawman you have built. How can you categorically state that no fans snuck in? Waffle and bluster. 

But my core point is, like you, Liverpool fans totally refuse to accept any responsibility for contributing to the overcrowding and pulled the same stunt in Athens. 

Poll Question: Who is the most hated team in the Premier League
Poll Choice	Votes	Poll Statistics
Chelsea	30	[38.96%]
Man Utd	15	[19.48%]
Man City	2	[2.60%]
Liverpool	20	[25.97%]
Arsenal	1	[1.30%]
Spurs	2	[2.60%]
West Ham	1	[1.30%]
Other	6	[7.79%]
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