Shamrock Rovers Thread

AnCearrbhach wrote: Heading to the match tonight, where would most of yer lot be supping beforehand?

Quietly fancy a win tonight. Better team earlier in the season and the final score line flattered them in Flower Lodge in the second meeting.

So that's 6 wins in a row including 2 wins against Cork in less than a month!

max wrote: Seen a post on FB the under 15s were training at 6:30 in the morning trained by Bradley and Damien Duff and were fed propperly after, nutrition etc. Any other club taking these measures? Surely a step in the right direction!

Green Devil wrote: So that's 6 wins in a row including 2 wins against Cork in less than a month! Rovers are most definitely improving, now that the players have had plenty of time to firmly get to grips with Bradley's tactics/systems etc but sure the usual suspects will no doubt try discredit him and Rovers whatever way they can..... Laughable looking back on the comments that Bradley is out of his depth, Bradley will be out of a job soon etc. It's so obvious that when a manager completely overhauls a clubs playing staff and tries to implement a different brand of football and philosophy it more often than not takes a good 6-12 months for it to bear fruit provided the players were good enough too! They've still a long way to go to match Cork and Dundalk over the course of 33 games but they will definitely close the gap next season.

Do you know something about Bradley that we don't?

It's not laughable to suggest that that club with the biggest budget compete for the league, beating Cork twice is a good achievement of course, but they're still 26 points and 40 odd goals behind them

I think if you ask most fans of the other LOI clubs fans they'll be happy enough to leave Bradley there next season and many more.

This next season talk has been around for quite some time.

9fingers wrote: Green Devil wrote: So that's 6 wins in a row including 2 wins against Cork in less than a month! Rovers are most definitely improving, now that the players have had plenty of time to firmly get to grips with Bradley's tactics/systems etc but sure the usual suspects will no doubt try discredit him and Rovers whatever way they can..... Laughable looking back on the comments that Bradley is out of his depth, Bradley will be out of a job soon etc. It's so obvious that when a manager completely overhauls a clubs playing staff and tries to implement a different brand of football and philosophy it more often than not takes a good 6-12 months for it to bear fruit provided the players were good enough too! They've still a long way to go to match Cork and Dundalk over the course of 33 games but they will definitely close the gap next season.  Do you know something about Bradley that we don't? It's not laughable to suggest that that club with the biggest budget compete for the league, beating Cork twice is a good achievement of course, but they're still 26 points and 40 odd goals behind them I think if you ask most fans of the other LOI clubs fans they'll be happy enough to leave Bradley there next season and many more. This next season talk has been around for quite some time.

Green Devil wrote: 9fingers wrote: Green Devil wrote: So that's 6 wins in a row including 2 wins against Cork in less than a month! Rovers are most definitely improving, now that the players have had plenty of time to firmly get to grips with Bradley's tactics/systems etc but sure the usual suspects will no doubt try discredit him and Rovers whatever way they can..... Laughable looking back on the comments that Bradley is out of his depth, Bradley will be out of a job soon etc. It's so obvious that when a manager completely overhauls a clubs playing staff and tries to implement a different brand of football and philosophy it more often than not takes a good 6-12 months for it to bear fruit provided the players were good enough too! They've still a long way to go to match Cork and Dundalk over the course of 33 games but they will definitely close the gap next season.  Do you know something about Bradley that we don't? It's not laughable to suggest that that club with the biggest budget compete for the league, beating Cork twice is a good achievement of course, but they're still 26 points and 40 odd goals behind them I think if you ask most fans of the other LOI clubs fans they'll be happy enough to leave Bradley there next season and many more. This next season talk has been around for quite some time. And for good reason, you can't just throw money at something when there is a complete overhaul going on at a club in terms of playing staff, management (to an extent) style of play, tactics etc and to expect everything to just fall into place in a short period of time. For sure you can find teams who are exceptions in regard to instant success but they are few and far between, even professional footballers find it difficult to adapt to new methods/systems straight away. It wouldn't be crazy to suggest that the Dundalk side between 2014 - 2016 were one of the best Irish club sides of all time? This current Cork side are very settled and the majority have played with each other for a few seasons now and have raised the bar this season in the League. So it's very hard to expect a young manager with a new team, with new ideas/systems to bridge the gap after a season when you have two very good teams in Cork and Dundalk! I would put money on it right now that Rovers will most definitely shave off 10 points next season if not more (depending on who they sign/lose in the transfer market)

2015 65 points +29 goals 3rd
2016 55 points +12 goals 4th
2017 55 points +10 goals 4th (estimate)

If they shave 10 points off they're back to where they were in 2015.
It's great they're investing in underage football, it's much needed although I would question taking in a kid from Carlow, as to the benefits for him & the club.

Bradley's man management and mouth been called into question many times, him berating a clearly concussed midfielder who he played out of position springs to mind immediately.

Fans getting behind a manager is great to see but I just can't see what the big deal is.
Your own infatuation with Bradley is a strange one too

Green Devil wrote: Can you honestly see Dundalk or Cork maintaining their points averages of the past 2 seasons? I can't tbh.  For sure Bradley has his flaws, I'm not arguing that for one second! Man management is something that managers learn from experience in how to handle situations better and you get that with age.  I like Bradley's ideas, coaching philosophy etc as a young and aspiring coach myself and how Rovers are going about their business with the clubs structure from underage up etc Hardly infatuation? I could easily spin it around and say just read back through the last 60 pages here and look at how obsessed so many non Rovers are with him and the club? Funnily enough there are certain posters who have been more vocal about Bradley than me be it good or bad.... Why would you question Rovers taking a kid from Carlow  What has a players county got to do with anything? DDSL clubs have multiple young lads from around here playing with them year in year out. I'm not talking the kid up because he's related to me but Southampton are supposedly watching him closely, would this happen if he was playing in the Carlow League? No....

Would fully expect Dundalk to hit 70 or so next season, if Cork find a goalscorer I'd expect them to go close. If Rovers find a goalscorer ( am amazed Bradley hasn't addressed this) id expect them to be around 60.
My point on Bradley is that pretty much any of the current managers could & would achieve exactly what he has so far with that group of players and why should that be celebrated?
Any team with Burke, Miele, Finn, Clarke etc should be scoring & creating by the bucket load... but they're 5th in the scoring stakes
As I said I'm all for young managers getting support I just don't see it with Bradley.

Caulfield has a lack of class that is embarrassing for Cork. If you can't even be a good winner it says it all about you