UK Politics Thread

At the moment the swing is too great, but the numbers would undoubtedly rebalance to an extent that the unassailable majority will be obliterated. At that point it is about the current opposition finding a route to a coalition.

Dominic Cummings has warned that he will not give up and will inflict as yet unimaginable damage if left in place. This could change before the day is out. I got the impression that he was ad-libbing rather than sticking to the script in that graceless and toe-curling speech and moves may already be underway to appoint a caretaker such as Raab. Starmer has already threatened a motion of no confidence in the Commons if he is not ousted and that would further divide the Tories if such a thing is possible. All rollicking good fun.

It’s worth a few quid on a bet that he’ll still be there by the end of the year.

TRV wrote: When you see criminals  like Zelenski gushing over  Boris you know what's up, an opposition thats bought, nothing will really happen,  musical chairs stuff

colemanY2K wrote: TRV wrote: When you see criminals  like Zelenski gushing over  Boris you know what's up, an opposition thats bought, nothing will really happen,  musical chairs stuff If labour get in with lib Dems next time then the introduction of PR will change the face of British politics and for the better.

Keir Starmer sounding a  lot more confident during his speech after getting the all clear about the Durham issue.

colemanY2K wrote: Borussia wrote: colemanY2K wrote: TRV wrote: When you see criminals  like Zelenski gushing over  Boris you know what's up, an opposition thats bought, nothing will really happen,  musical chairs stuff If labour get in with lib Dems next time then the introduction of PR will change the face of British politics and for the better. Can't see it happening - All they could do would be to have another referendum again and I doubt it would pass.  All depends on labour getting behind it this time. At the moment labour, lib dems and greens vote share is hovering around 60 to 65% with the tories on circa 30%. That's a sizable share for progressive minded parties.

Edited by Borussia - 08 Jul 2022 at 3:57pm

Starmer has ruled out a deal with the SNP. This may prove unwise but his calculation is no doubt influenced by Labour needing to do a lot better than their current one seat in Scotland, hence a combative approach there in the next general election is likely and he also won’t want to be pilloried in the Tory press as a puppet of Nicola Sturgeon. There are arguments for and against PR-it has not been an unqualified success in countries that have it, with the likes of small fascist parties for instance gaining disproportionate influence-but the UK electorate does seem to have copped on collectively to tactical voting, ie going for Labour or Lib Dems depending on which is stronger in the constituency and most likely to beat the Tory candidate.