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Will the DUP go nuclear now and formally withdraw their support from the Government?????
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Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Will the DUP go nuclear now and formally withdraw their support from the Government?????

Nah they'll f**king bottle it and hope the Tories get rid of May 
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In summary, Theresa May is going down the Peter O'Hanraha-Hanrahan route, and wants the rest of the UK to do the same. "I don't like it, but I have to go along with it.



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Do they need the DUP to pass their budget or is that done / dusted already?
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

In summary, Theresa May is going down the Peter O'Hanraha-Hanrahan route, and wants the rest of the UK to do the same. "I don't like it, but I have to go along with it.



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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Originally posted by colemanY2K colemanY2K wrote:

Will the DUP go nuclear now and formally withdraw their support from the Government?????

Nah they'll f**king bottle it and hope the Tories get rid of May 
I wouldn't be so sure. They are fundamentalists at heart.
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May only got a majority in her Cabinet, 10 opposed.

Put that figure on top of the 40 Tories who want her out, Labour MPs and SNP MPs.

On paper its hard to see how it will even come close to passing
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Question:  The proposed text is 500 pages long.  How the fook can a person read that in less than 24 hrs and discuss its merits?Stern Smile

These Tory brexit lads don't do little details like that, they'll wait for the first buffoon like Boris or JRM to claim he has read it & hates it, and then all follow suit saying much the same thing.  Saves them reading it, not that they would be able to understand it in the first place. Some time later, it will then turn out that neither of the lads who claimed to read it will have read it either. 

This isn't going anywhere though, is it ? There isn't any way that they can keep their own lunatics, (an excellent combination of right wing millionaires and terminally stupid people) the EU/Irish & the DUP happy, which has been the problem from the very first day. They'd be doing exceptionally well to make even one of those crowds happy, 2 of them being satisfied would require a substantial political feat, and 3 is unachievable in reality. 

The old reality isn't a huge strong point with either the lads who are used to seeing their vast amounts of money overcome all obstacles, nor the terminally stupid, who neither understand what it is they are dealing with, nor want understand it in the first place. The DUP live in some class of alternative reality in the 1600's, so that's a tough one to penetrate as well. Getting it through cabinet ? A party leader can get the people she appointed herself, to agree with her on policy (for a few hours anyway) & this is supposed to be some sort of political achievement ?? The bar for these things gets lower all the time. 



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The EU facilitated it for May to fudge it enough to get it over the line. Make no mistake about it the final outcome will be what the EU or more succinctly the banks and corporation's that control  the EU want. May will be toast and the UK economy (now the EUs biggest competitor) will stagnate. The UKs hope is that enough MPs have the backbone to reject the deal and stand up for their constituents.
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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:


Question:  The proposed text is 500 pages long.  How the fook can a person read that in less than 24 hrs and discuss its merits?Stern Smile

These Tory brexit lads don't do little details like that, they'll wait for the first buffoon like Boris or JRM to claim he has read it & hates it, and then all follow suit saying much the same thing.  Saves them reading it, not that they would be able to understand it in the first place. Some time later, it will then turn out that neither of the lads who claimed to read it will have read it either. 

This isn't going anywhere though, is it ? There isn't any way that they can keep their own lunatics, (an excellent combination of right wing millionaires and terminally stupid people) the EU/Irish & the DUP happy, which has been the problem from the very first day. They'd be doing exceptionally well to make even one of those crowds happy, 2 of them being satisfied would require a substantial political feat, and 3 is unachievable in reality. 

The old reality isn't a huge strong point with either the lads who are used to seeing their vast amounts of money overcome all obstacles, nor the terminally stupid, who neither understand what it is they are dealing with, nor want understand it in the first place. The DUP live in some class of alternative reality in the 1600's, so that's a tough one to penetrate as well. Getting it through cabinet ? A party leader can get the people she appointed herself, to agree with her on policy (for a few hours anyway) & this is supposed to be some sort of political achievement ?? The bar for these things gets lower all the time. 





So what happens when this is rejected by the House of Lack of Common Sense?
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Every member of the Cabinet is a traitor to the British people. They should hang their head in shame. They will go down in history as lily livered cowards that contrived to sell out our precious union. May must be removed as a matter of urgency #Brexit



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Originally posted by Bo Jackson Bo Jackson wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

In summary, Theresa May is going down the Peter O'Hanraha-Hanrahan route, and wants the rest of the UK to do the same. "I don't like it, but I have to go along with it.



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#Brexit Is this the end of the DUP and Arlene Foster? They walked away from the GFA, and voted for Brexit, knowing the people of the North were against it. Their inability to compromise has undone them. Their "Britishness" has been thrown back in their face.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Bo Jackson Bo Jackson wrote:

Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

In summary, Theresa May is going down the Peter O'Hanraha-Hanrahan route, and wants the rest of the UK to do the same. "I don't like it, but I have to go along with it.



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Edited by Denis Irwin - 14 Nov 2018 at 11:34pm
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https://twitter.com/gibbogibby1/status/1062783825816809473

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Originally posted by deise316 deise316 wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:


Question:  The proposed text is 500 pages long.  How the fook can a person read that in less than 24 hrs and discuss its merits?Stern Smile

These Tory brexit lads don't do little details like that, they'll wait for the first buffoon like Boris or JRM to claim he has read it & hates it, and then all follow suit saying much the same thing.  Saves them reading it, not that they would be able to understand it in the first place. Some time later, it will then turn out that neither of the lads who claimed to read it will have read it either. 


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It's been known for months what's in the deal. It's so well known I could summarise 533 pages in 1 paragraph, you fail to see why the Cabinet ministers are actually pissed off - May pretty much sold out, prolonging her stay as PM as much as possible without negotiation over the National interest.

The 533 pages is basically this:
You have the exact same deal you have right now except from 
  •  The pound will never recover
  •  You remain in the Customs Union
  •  Any laws incorporated into EU law will also be implemented into UK law
  • The soft Irish border can never end on the UK's terms but only when the UK and EU agree it's no longer working.
  • UK still has to follow EU tax imports and exports and VAT regulations, on agriculture, environment and electricity markets during the transition.

Boris and JRM are very correct in labelling the deal turning the country into a vassal state, for the next 3 years the UK will be told what the EU says without actually being in the EU. 

It's like having a job role at work as an Assistant Manager and being asked to go down to Trainee role, but having the same responsibility as the previous role and you're still the Managers bitch but on less salary, you wouldn't do it would you.

And I'm no expert, but I don't think this is what 52% of the country voted for either.

Great deal if you're living in Ireland however, Leo Varadkar probably went to bed tonight feeling as popular as St. Patrick knowing he got everything he wanted plus more knowing the DUP's constituents are about to revolt against them. 


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The Brits have royally shafted themselves with this withdrawal agreement. Where it goes from here I do not know...one thing's for sure it ain't passing a vote in the Commons.

EDIT: It might not even get to a vote. First resignation has just happened, a junior minister who was previously a remainer.


Edited by colemanY2K - 15 Nov 2018 at 8:07am
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