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nvidic 
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 Posted: 30 Jul 2018 at 12:51pm |
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That'll be a break there 'Jason', not the first time bigoted views have been sprouted by you on here.
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Het-field
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Posted: 30 Jul 2018 at 2:56pm |
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Anti Semitism is often couched in conspiracy theory and innuendo. As a result the lines sometimes appear blurred, when in fact it's quite obvious what the intent is. Even if it is just an unfortunate use of the term, the word crafty would undoubtedly fall into the category of the innuendo I have mentioned.
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irishmufc
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Posted: 30 Jul 2018 at 7:55pm |
Exactly. I love the way 'crafty' is used as a more acceptable term to deliver the same bigoted generalisation of a given social group.
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Denis Irwin
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Posted: 31 Jul 2018 at 5:22pm |
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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Posted: 31 Jul 2018 at 5:49pm |
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The correlation between complete idiocy and wealth in the modern world only highlights the failure of global capitalism.
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Denis Irwin
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Posted: 03 Aug 2018 at 6:06pm |
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Poor aul "Tommy"
 His nightmare is over for the moment anyway
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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coyne
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Posted: 07 Aug 2018 at 11:44pm |
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See that BJ has proven himself successful that he doesn't need to be Foreign Secretary to upset people.
Muslim women who wear burkas look like bank robbers apparently.
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Het-field
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Posted: 08 Aug 2018 at 7:35pm |
Awful stuff. I can't understand what he hopes to achieve with such ignorant comments, to the point that the top brass in the Party are seeking an apology from him.
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d13dave
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Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 3:28pm |
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Crass and juvenile, not a surprise from Boris. He did defend the right to wear it though.
I have to say outside of Tower Hamlets/Shadwell/Whitechapel i have seen very few Burqa wearing women in London. It would seem to me to be a Bagladeshi thing. It is a seriously oppressive odd item of clothing to wear in my opinion but each to their own. Strangely the husbands in a lot of cases are dressed in "western clothing" outside of when they go to the Mosque. |
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the_walls
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Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 4:11pm |
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I'd agree with each to their own up to a point but it's literally a statement saying that we want nothing to do with the host society, we do not want to integrate in any way and want to totally isolate ourselves.
Now the comments from Johnson are the usual buffonery from a childish idiot that a person in his position shouldn't be making, but to be fair he is actually defending their right to wear it, despite his remarks. I'd agree with the position the French and Danish governments have taken for the reasons outlined.
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Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 4:20pm |
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I would see it as the opposite, it is the host society saying you will only be welcomed as long as you give up your personal religious beliefs.I have no interest in any religion, but by telling people that they can't do something you are only causing resentment. Look at how the Roman Empire remains relevant in Ireland today, largely because the English told the Irish they couldn't practice it. Education and dialogue are the way to a secular society, not authoritarian decrees.
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corkery
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Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 5:24pm |
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You'd never get around wearing one in Ireland, no post office will pay your dole, you'd never get a licence or public services card. No Garda would sign your passport form. No government office would speak to ya. Could ya imagine someone walking into a shop on Barrack St with one on, they'd be told get out straight away.
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'The younger generation as in 17 -25 are certainly gayer than their predecessors. I think they may cause the extinction of the human race with their activities.'- Baldrick
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Sham157
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Posted: 09 Aug 2018 at 5:27pm |
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proper order. Religious bullsh*t aside, its not the done thing here so when in Rome.... If I go to my neighbours house and their house rules are I must take my shoes off at the door then thats exactly what ill do. If I dont like it then I dont go there.
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the_walls
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Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 8:32am |
I agree with the bit in bold but there has to responsibility on the newcomers too. Completely covering your face such as this completely alienates you from the host society and literally cuts you off and causes mistrust and resentment among the natives, whether that is fair or not. You are literally walking around in your own little bubble. You should still be able to dress however you like but you shouldn't be at liberty to conceal your identity in a public place in my view. While the laws in France and Denmark certainly affect Muslim women much more than anyone else, they are still nonetheless applicable to everyone. There has to be some responsibility on immigrants to adapt to their host society.
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Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 10:10am |
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There is only fear because of existing prejudice in the host society. France may well be doing it to establish a 'liberal' society, but it is a ban that only really affects one religious group and causes resentment. The education and dialogue has to go both ways. Islamophobia is a huge problem in France, even more so than England, amazingly, and the ban has only stirred it up more. Telling one group of people in a free society what they can and can't wear is only setting the argument back about twenty years and nothing else. It isn't improving anything.
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d13dave
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Posted: 10 Aug 2018 at 1:21pm |
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The Turks and Moroccans are not a fan of the burka either to be fair.
Personally i feel people should be able to wear what they want however think the burka is a ridiculous looking oppressive item and would not be happy if a sister or female cousin decided to wear one. For balance i also hate three quarter length tracksuit bottoms, crocs, wifebeaters and air jordan trainers. I cannot see the issue with any item of clothing being ridiculed.
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Het-field
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 1:54pm |
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The Guardian is reporting that the Labour Party has prepared the ground to adopt the full IHRA definition of Anti-Semitism. A welcome step, but given the lapse of time, the amount of voices which were calling for full adoption, and the divided nature of the party this could have a whiff of cynicism about it. Especially as the compromise approach would appear to have been the sensible one and it has taken so long to reach it.
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Posted: 16 Aug 2018 at 2:25pm |
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I disagree. The only real comparisons for the actions of the Israeli state to Palestine are with South African Apartheid and Nazism. Remove that and it is fine.
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