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the_walls
Jack Charlton 6 in a row, alive alive oh.. Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Walkinstown Status: Offline Points: 5182 |
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In fairness a large influence on party policy takes into account that the world is only 6,000 years old and a desire to save Ulster from sodomy.
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NewtNewbie
Liam Brady Joined: 05 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 2416 |
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As the inevitable border poll draws ever nearer, the inconvenient problem of just what to do with Big Arlene, Sammy and the like becomes ever more immediate a concern. I guess a one-way ticket for the Belfast to Cairnryan ferry is one option, though Ersatz Thistle may have something to say about that... Edited by NewtNewbie - 14 Sep 2020 at 10:19pm |
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Olaf
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 13 Jul 2020 Location: Far away Status: Offline Points: 269 |
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It draws nearer, but it wouldn’t pass tomorrow or for the foreseeable future until the fall out from Brexit is seen in hindsight. Keep in mind there still is the potential for it to be a success, eventually. As a nationalist from Northern Ireland, I’m aware of that. Most people are content with benefits from her majesty, free healthcare and so on. SF can keep banging on, but if they had the chance for a poll tomorrow I believe they know it would fail.
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the_walls
Jack Charlton 6 in a row, alive alive oh.. Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Walkinstown Status: Offline Points: 5182 |
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Stick Gregory Campbell down the Gaeltacht.
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horsebox
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It was far across the sea,
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Sham157
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coyne
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340-263. It wasn’t even close.
It’s been mentioned before but with such a huge majority he gets to do whatever he wants whenever he wants and the people to blame are the ones who allowed the huge majority. The only time he’ll consider reversing decisions is if it’ll cause unrest on the frontbench. He’s got own people who lost in the last election up in the House of Lords too. Got to hand it to the man he’s not as stupid as he looks.
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FrankosHereNow
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UK simply cannot be trusted. It’s an international laughing stock. A failed nation.
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Green Cockade
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Jan 2020 Location: Belfast Status: Offline Points: 2685 |
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Rogue state. No chance of a trade deal with USA as things stand and other countries contemplating one will be looking at inserting ultra punitive clauses that will become operative in the event of their deals being dishonoured. Re the House of Lords, it's a horse of a different colour currently with a large remainer majority. They will certainly unpick the bill if it gets there and technically could scupper it altogether by running down time, also their interventions will have to be considered by the Commons with scope for further amendments. A dog's dinner all round for the Pariah state no matter how you look at it.
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Jackal
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It looks like the UK will be satisfied with no deal. The problem with that is that we won't bring in border controls. Does that mean we get fined?
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the_walls
Jack Charlton 6 in a row, alive alive oh.. Joined: 13 Feb 2009 Location: Walkinstown Status: Offline Points: 5182 |
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My understanding would lead me to to think the Brits would eventually have to put up some border controls if they are trading with the EU on WTO terms. If they leave the border wide open then there can be no tariffs and if there are no tariffs then every country in the world that they don't have a trade deal with has to have tariff free access under the WTO most favoured nation rule. For ourselves, my understanding is that we would have a choice. We would either have to put in border controls or there would have to be checks on Irish products going into the rest of the EU.
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coyne
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I think there's alot of mis-understanding about what the bill means but this pretty much summarises it. The Brits have voted to take control of the goods coming in and out of Northern Ireland despite NI still being part of the EU single market, it's controversial because it's dishonourable and it's basically hijacking the EU's control of goods in NI. The problem is that there's gonna be a sort of inevitability that with NI goods under Brit control they'll place tariffs on goods heading from Britain to EU which also means goods from NI to ROI, therefore border checks.
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Olaf
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There absolutely will be a trade deal with the US. Nonsense. I don’t agree with their changes, voluntary breaking international law does nothing bar lose international respect. Except to one individual who lives in the Whitehouse who sees it as giving the fingers to Brussels. It’s still a game of bluff, the EU need to change their stance on a few aspects and vica versa. Boris was elected with a huge majority with the promise of a no deal was never off the table. I’m not quite sure why people are surprised.
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Green Cockade
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I doubt if many are surprised, certainly not those who have observed the delusional jingoism and lemming-like rush to the cliff edge by English nationalists over the course of the last few years. There may well be bluff behind the bill; if so, it is spectacularly ill-advised in substance as well as principle and has been a serious act of self-harm in terms of diplomatic and international credibility. Some are anticipating a desperately spun climb down to be hastily cobbled together in the next few days. Others are predicting full steam ahead to a hard Brexit with the full impact of the consequences becoming clear in a matter of months. The latter prognosis would involve Johnson's hedge fund backers cleaning up by shorting the pound and his Russian associates reporting job done to their bosses. Bojo would be financially set for life and could jump ship before the serious excrement starts hitting the fan. Looking at him being ripped to shreds point by point by Miliband yesterday, I am inclined to believe the growing rumours that he is getting out in January and will take his director Cummings with him.
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sid waddell
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Criminal kleptocracy is definitely at the heart of the Brexit project I'd bet me last euro on it I don't expect Johnson to jump ship however Power for power's sake is like a drug for these ****s
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Trap junior
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Green Cockade
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WHO SAID THAT ?
(A) " There will be no downside to Brexit. Only a considerable upside." (B) " The day after we vote to leave, we hold all the cards and we can choose the path we want." (C) " Getting out of the EU will be quick and easy. The UK holds most of the cards." (D) " The FTA that we will do with the EU should be one of the easiest in human history." (E) " I think we could very easily get a better trade deal than we have at the moment." (F) " Trade relations with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of tea." ANSWERS: (A) David Davis (B) Michael Gove (C) John Redwood (D) Liam Fox (E) Douglas Carswell (F) Gerard Batten |
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sid waddell
Roy Keane On a dark desert highway Joined: 20 Nov 2009 Status: Offline Points: 12173 |
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Andrew Neil leaves the BBC to front a new Fox News type channel Rupert Murdoch starting a second UK based Fox News channel next year Paul Dacre of the Daily Mail being brought in to run Ofcom, the UK media regulator Charles Moore, the former editor of the Daily Telegraph, being made chairman of the BBC - obviously in order to run it into the ground I f**king hate being proved correct about things Things are going to get a lot, lot worse for Britain
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